Hello Dear readers,
This is Joy part of the Lion's Jaw Living Archive Book team from across the pond.
I wanted to take some time (space) to orient you- gentle reader-as to how I came to wrap my head around this project, but also how I facilitated the inputs from my end and why. I hope this helps.
As Ben stated, we met at the last LJ festival where I was teaching. I was excited and inspired by Ben's offering of book making and sort of nerded out about his process then. This year Ben reached out to me outlining his 'web-to-print' idea for the book and asked if I wanted to engage in this collaborative process. I said YES of course. After I said yes Ben and I busied ourselves with shaping what this, then ephemeral, container would look like. We were aligned in our curiosity to have external inputs from those outside the festival in order to provide a broader lens for reflection. Over skype and email a frame began to crystallize around what the nature of external inputs could be. My focus was on looking at the book as a space, access, transparency, and divergent archival processes.
On my own time i began to shape three nodes of input based on where I was located, and what I was engaged in at the time. I recently became a staff member at SNDO (School for New Dance Development, Academy of Theater and Dance, Amsterdam, NL), and my artistic practice and community has shifted since I relocated to Europe. I decided to call on this in order to curate my input groups. I came up with the following groupings:
1. SNDO -students and staff
2. Movement Artist and Makers based outside the US
3. Peers- highly responsive friends from all over-outside LJ context
I invited people to engage with the prompts in whatever way they saw fit. For me my primary focus was what can I learn from this? What can be learned about festival culture? Is it possible to connect to a closed community in real time, and if we connect does the community open/shift awareness/become more apparent/ do patterns emerge? What you have in your [virtual] hands now is what occurred.
I want to also acknowledge that through my collaboration with Ben I learned about the possibilities of infusing care into a collaborative work process. Ben's support, mindfulness, openness, curiosity were/are astounding and without it none of this dynamic archiving would be possible...
The festival will begin with the following inputs available:
1. The friendly scanning station—located at Green Street Studios. Participants can scan anything they wish into the archive.
2. The email bucket— >>SEND TO: lionsjawbook2018 (at) gmail (dot) com<<. a specific email address is distributed to the Lion’s Jaw festival participants, Joy’s network of friends and colleagues, and eventually the audience members of the performances. Participants can email whatever they wish. [Pictures of the festival {if you happen to be there} would be lovely!}
3. The public chat room—anyone, at anytime can enter the public chat room.
4. The unknown—keep your eyes open for other inputs. And/or please feel free to attempt other inputs. This archive is alive! Some other inputs we are currently busy with include: video, photo, sound, transcript, screenshot, smell, somatic, poetry… scores…
1. Scanner—a friendly someone will always be by the scanner to help you scan what you’d like into the archive. Feel free to ask them some questions.
2. The email bucket—the archive will ONLY make public the SUBJECT LINE and BODY of the email. We will not publish your email address. This means if you want your name to be attached to the email it needs to appear in either the subject line, or body of the message.
3. The public chat room—Ok, so the chatroom is very basic, and we are still working out some of the kinks. Stay tuned here for updates as the come. In the meantime it warrants repeating some good, old advice: don’t share any private info in the chat room such as back account information, SSN (if applicable), etc… :)
4. Unknown—bring it. To talk about devising an alternative input please contact Ben if you are at Green Street Studios, or Joy if you are a part of their network.
Ummmmmm OK, that’s it for now.
xx Ben + Joy
archive/book team
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2018 Lion's Jaw Book Project
9/20/18
Dear lion’s jaw teaching artist,
This year just like last year Lion’s jaw is making a book.
Last year we made a book documenting the festival, and it was a really generative experience. It was an open invitation . . To make the book we set up a scanner in the Green Street Studio lounge that was available (accessible) to all festival participants. We then invited participants to scan whatever they wanted into the book—each scan was a new page, (added sequentially), and the result was a 6"x9" paperback.
This year we are making another book, but we hope to add a bit more depth and specificity to its contents—in addition to again setting up the open scanning station. In fact, in addition to being a book, this year’s book will also involve an website space that can be entered into in several different ways over the course of the festival. So the project is really becoming more of an experiment dynamic archiving.
Our goal this time around is to capture the specific concerns and interests of the Lion’s Jaw festival, through a series of procedures that are highly accessible, approachable, and transparent. And we believe that this festival’s concerns and interests can be defined as the interests of you, it’s specific constellation of teaching artists.
One of the reasons we decided to make a website this year was to be able to catalyze a dialogue between festival participants, you the teachers, and the festival administration itself. As a way to ground this potential dialogue what we are asking from you today is to respond to the questions below. We will take your answers and organize a series of daily bulletins to be published on the website, and printed and taped on the wall at Green Street Studios. Participants will then be invited to contribute to this archive with your words already in the air.
Answers can be as heavy or light as you like. We especially encourage you to respond with questions of your own, if you’d like.
—What will you be researching at Lion’s Jaw, and how do you imagine that research informing the collective group experience?
—Where is the edge between research and practice in your work?—How do you currently relate to your own economy of resources—abundance, scarcity, sharing etc.?
—How do you define a festival?
—Beyond your role as a teacher at Lion’s Jaw how do you seek out chances to exchange techniques/strategies/tools/practices with others?
We would kindly ask that you send your responses by the end of this month. Your contribution is i m m e a s u r a b l y appreciated!
With respect and gratitude,
Ben Van Buren + Joy Mariama Smith
2018 Lion's Jaw Book Team
ben: hiiiiiiiii
ben: :)
smae: Hey!
ben: It works!
smae: This is so great!
ben: chat chat chat
smae: welcome to boston!!!!
ben: Thank you!
ben: I am in the Athenaeum
ben: by the commons
smae: *excited*
ben: how are you how are you?
smae: nice, I just got home. so glad you'll be so close!
ben: *excited* indeed
ben: yeahhh that works super well
smae: ha i'm good! It's been a whirl wind summer into fall
ben: are you ready for tomorrow?
ben: no kidding
smae: i think so! actually feeling fairly calm about the whole weekend thus far
smae: def some last minute things to do but overall we're just psyched
ben: sounds great. I'm really excited to see how things are different this year, just given the different teachers
ben: how's enrollment?
ben: or, maybe that's not a question for the old chat?
smae: yeah, they totally change the culture every year
smae: no it's a fine question :-) it's great actually!!
ben: fantastic!
ben: lots of repeats? new people?
smae: both. but, but lots of returns.
ben: swell
smae: which will feel cozy I think
ben: totally
smae: little community that gets together once a year
smae: :-)
ben: it's really happening!
smae: year 3! it's happening!
ben: are you already thinking about year 4?
smae: of course
ben: of courssseeeee
ben: next stop lion's Jaw takes over the Wang theater
ben: and becomes a dance competition
smae: we have another fun crowd in mind. but keeping it hush until we get all the acceptances
smae: bahaha
smae: yes.
ben: a fun crowd huh? mokay
smae: lol it's always a fun crowd
smae: who am i kidding
ben: lol. i saw on insta that there has been some press.
ben: do you feel the festival buzz is growing?
smae: slowly, press for dance is really hard to convince people it's worth including. But I do think we're growing. Because we such a mom and pop festival still it's slow. But that's also what makes it what it is
ben: totally.
ben: ahhh im kinda crashing
ben: the bus ride was a bit long
ben: and i don't want to keep you after a full day
ben: but we can totally chill here if you want
smae: i can imagine. that's a trip. I should hop off too and organize a bit
smae: but i'm so glad this works so well!
ben: mokay, well we will meet here again I'm sure!
ben: haha meeee too. its still a tick buggy but I think its up and runnign
ben: but ok ok ok
ben: have a great night and i cant wait to see you so soon!
smae: see you tomorrow!
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Subject: Opening
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joy!: ok!greets from netherlands!
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Subject: Lion’s Jaw Festival 2018 class title renaming doc - Invitation to edit
hello ppl of LJ, this doc is for renaming what you took. this can be considered as an exercise or a mode of reflection, call me by your name, class alias, re: class description, or what’s in a name
Please list: (class time, day and teacher’s initials)
9:30-11:30 10/4 JZ
infinity body sticks
to infinity and beyond with JZ
dancing infinity
3-5 10/4 JOK
where is my purse?
I use my own bag; (subtitle) yeah, I said it.
5-7 10/4 AC
“THE FURY”
(how the fuck do you touch internal space)
do you REMember?
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Subject: Photo Test
Hi Ben,
Here is a JPEG from us. Is this too big for the book? We didn't compress at all.
www.thefleetNYC.com
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Subject: Book!
Sent from my iPhone
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Subject: reg desk 3:17pm 10/4/18
aka downstairs lair in yonkers hosted LJ chatroom
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Subject: limited merch, slightly arranged
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Subject: October 4, 2018 lounge view
BVB: Bonjour from Boston!
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downstairs lair: Lovely to be here
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BVB: hellooooo
BVB: finding the wifi took some time
BVB: How's the morning life?
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BVB: YO
ELLEN: hI!
BVB: chatttrrroommmm
BVB: how was the trip here?
ELLEN: The trip here was great, very smooth. I was very excited though so I did not sleep on the bus.
BVB: haha
BVB: will you be taking photos all day?
BVB: anything you want to shoot in particular?
ELLEN: Yes photos and video! About to start taking photos. I am very excited to film some video of Larry's moon workshop.
BVB: amen that sounds cool
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jArEd: hello I've arrived here
BVB: hello welcom
BVB: e
BVB: so
BVB: how'd opening circle go?
BVB: (which was yesterday night)
jArEd: I'm so trapped in my own experience during the opening that I'm never sure I know
jArEd: I have an aversion often to circles in these contexts and also strggle with nerves and stagefright!
BVB: what's the aversion, do you think?
jArEd: It's a lot- like how do we give information but also a lens for people to see things going forward... knowing that much of it will be totally lost haha
jArEd: well sitting in one place for awhile for one
BVB: of course, but you feel it's key to gather in person. rather than doing it over email?
jArEd: then also running out of capacity for info
jArEd: and also is the person leading annoying. like their voice or their approach... mostly personal for me
BVB: yours was not!
jArEd: phew! (to you anyway )
BVB: is building a group dynamic important to Lion's Jaw? beyond the opening circle are there ways to come together that you try to build, or that you want to build?
jArEd: I feel like we're more interested in what the dynamic reveals itslef to be then in building anything specifc
jArEd: but we do have to create a container of a sort- that feels alive but not too porous. Like you're here AT a thing.
BVB: And as you grow? Do you hope that future iterations of Lion's Jaw will be larger—in terms of number of participants, teachers...?
BVB: and are there specific ways in which you want to grow?
BVB: Adding more performances maybe?
BVB: or more teaching time?
BVB: or....?
BVB: 🤗
jArEd: yes! I mean there's a part of you, when an experience feels rich or engaging that wants it to go on and on but I think realistically no intensive experience like this could or should be longer than 2 weeks
jArEd: I think we are imagining exanding it to a full week w two weekends
jArEd: the performance piece has been really problamatic for me/us and two weekends would help w that
BVB: how so?
jArEd: right now because of the innate hierarchy of a society w weekdays and weekends it means that fri pm sat pm and to an extent sunday are 'better' days for performance to be seen
jArEd: and it's too show-casey rn for us- many artists are durational in their work and asking them to do 10 min pieces is already a lot- then smashing them one up against each other
jArEd: it's a bit of a traffic jam imo
jArEd: w two weekends we could have 3 pieces a night at 20+ min each
BVB: for sure for sure
jArEd: I love the idea of ongoing performances happening throughout the fest but as an artist you have to be willing to not really be 'seen' so much
BVB: The showcase-ness also keeps things very casual, which can be nice. Do you think more performing would change the student/teacher dynamic in the festival?
jArEd: hmm
jArEd: yeah you're right it might feel more hierarchical or 'professional' w the change- or more spread out which is a thing too
jArEd: and I like the WIP quality of the pieces rn , no artist can get too precious w a 15min tech!
BVB: amen!
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BVB: hey hey!
Timna: Hey BVB! Thanks for scanning my hand !
BVB: of course. here at the LIVING ARCHIVE we love to scan 💗
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BVB: joooooyyyyyy!
joy!: Yo
Timna: Joy! 💗
joy!: Hey is that you Timna!
joy!: OK so I am just reading and catching up on what is going on and reviewing Jared's feels about open circle.
joy!: To be honest I am also at work nannying and cooking dinner and clean the kitchen so this is a very interesting way to engage. Also my keyboard is broken so I happen to be dictating. I let just cuisine OK
Timna: Do you know another Timna? Loved your video yesterday
joy!: (also what I really said at the end there was in French: 'alex je fait le cuisine ok!' [Americanize French accent]
Timna: I’ll switch to dictation too. Curious to hear more about your side of the feedback circle that this project is creating
joy!: No I don't know another Timna and really love the video? Thanks💋
Timna: Truly it felt like I was hanging out with you you’re yawning was the best part
Timna: Thinking about other ways this sort of live archiving can be utilized
joy!: Oh shit I and I didn't look at the video before I send it
Timna: Hahahahahah it all good no shame
joy!: Oh shit no shame at all. how was the there? classes? PoC, queers? what does it look/feel like?
Timna: PoC and queers are here. Minority but easily 10% or more PoC and queer is more blurry to specifics on the first day. Every class every teacher seems real different. Closer to 30% PoC rep in teachers.
Timna: This all from opening circle and first class this morning.
joy!: Curious to hear more tooo
Timna: More could come things could change
Timna: Feels warm. Looks like a takeover. Nobody but lions Jake peeps around.
Timna: (In the studios and halls)
joy!: ok.... clear ... how does that feel? safe or...
Timna: Really want hearty vegan community meals. Made but me and you 😜
Timna: By*
joy!: or can you write a bit more? i am trying to get a sense and i am not there...
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jArEd: hello! I'm in the middle of Kirstie Simson's class so I'm rudely poking my head in to say hello
jArEd: I love everyone- Kirstie is beautiful- my body is warm and lovely byyyyyee
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joy!: @Timna: YASSS hearty vegan community meals.
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downstairs lair: hello from the registration desk, the sound of construction or jackhammer can be heard in the background
downstairs lair: sitting partnered, we wait for more people to join the festivities
downstairs lair: Time to sort tee shirts
downstairs lair: Jenny says "Sup Chatroom"
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BVB: sup All
BVB: upstairs can hear some music in studio three
BVB: some people lie on couches, others sit on the floor
BVB: time to chat
downstairs lair: we just sold two shirts Hoorah!
downstairs lair: What do u want 2 chat about?
BVB: Huzzah for shirt life!
BVB: i guess we should chat about Lion's Jaw?
BVB: or, something else...?
BVB: how's registration?
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downstairs lair: so good, we used all 100 of our name tag plastic sleeves
downstairs lair: we have one hundred people registered or attending this festival!
downstairs lair: ⭐
BVB: wow! that is fantastic! is that an uptick from last year?
downstairs lair: Yes!
BVB: again, fantastic!
BVB: are people mostly from around here?
downstairs lair: Definitley a strong MA and other New England presence
downstairs lair: but we are coast to coast
downstairs lair: And international
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joy!: hello hello hello
joy!: ok i am home from a long day at work.
joy!: and i have to say maybe the hours of the chat room could be shifted because most of the people i know work so now might be a good itme
downstairs lair: hello, I am sitting at the reg desk with Jacob n Ben now, and I am Michael Fig
joy!: hey.. can you take a selfie of the downstairs lair beacuse it sounds very ominous 🙂
downstairs lair: Ben is getting coffee, he will return and address the situ
joy!: ok ok cool cool. were you there last year? people? have i seen you before. is there a merch display? what do the tshirts look like this year and whon designed them
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Underdancer: Yay dance!
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downstairs lair: lol how does one add pictures to this?
Underdancer: Apparently one does not. Cause I can’t find it either
Underdancer: Having arrived at an awkward time, I’m now just chilling around
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Archive Station: hey heyyyy
Archive Station: yeah i could have swron a pic is possible but...
Archive Station: still looking
Archive Station: @joy, its a really good call with the hours
downstairs lair: other than registration tasks apparently I am technologically illiterate
Archive Station: lol
Archive Station: maybe we can soft schedule a time to meet in chat life tomorrow?
downstairs lair: downstairs lair will be active throughout the majority of the festival
Archive Station: Boston 14:00 Netherlands 20:00...?
Archive Station: i love downstairs lair!
downstairs lair: @joy! how was work? I did attend LJ last year, and was in your lab...I am forwarding images of folded shirts to Ben(ny)
downstairs lair: many thanks to you Archive Station, you are loved as well.
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Archive Station: jared, what's up with the instagram cornewr
Archive Station: *corner
Archive Station: tryin to go viral?
jArEd: this was an idea Larry A had
Underdancer: Jared, any word on the MySpace corner?
Archive Station: lol
jArEd: sh'es makes a lot of great vids on IG and thought it would be a nice way for people to connect to that
Archive Station: who does lion's jaw's social media?
Archive Station: totes totes
jArEd: is my space still real?
Archive Station: https://myspace.com/
Archive Station: i had to google
Underdancer: Your space is as real as you want
jArEd: social media is done mostly by me sadly
jArEd: not the best choice
Archive Station: maybe we should describe the lounge?
jArEd: I want to go sit in a room
Archive Station: for JOY and crew?
jArEd: a class room
Archive Station: you are in a room...
jArEd: not jus ANY room
Archive Station: This is the LOUNGE at GREEN STREET STUDIOS
Archive Station: the carpet is green
jArEd: the lounge is a whitewashed concrete rectangle w dirty green carpets and two couches
Archive Station: there is a string of lights hanging on the wall behind the white leather couch
jArEd: there are a few tables and a small refrigerator and righ now there is anya cloud with headphones larry arrington preparing for her class, jacob regan on his phone, me on my laptop and Ben at the station eating carrots
Archive Station: the door to studio three is in the lounge. It is indicated by a metal number 3, the kind typically used on houses. The door is painted a rusty red color and has a small magnet of an Irish flag with someone doing step dancing on in.
downstairs lair: there's also a set of like 12 cubbies...the storage units, right?
downstairs lair: Selena is being blasted in the downstairs lair
jArEd: haha
Archive Station: wowww you know the space.. its 16 cubbies
jArEd: I could fall in love with you
Archive Station: right by the door when you come in
downstairs lair: bidi bidi bum bum
downstairs lair: ugh space memory fail
jArEd: and there are an odd assortment of books on dancing there. like folk dancing and ballet dancing
downstairs lair: lol, antithetical to LJ?
Archive Station: good Q
jArEd: hmmm... I would like less books on dancing personally
Archive Station: "BALLANCE" is being shouted in studio 3
Archive Station: "BALANCE!" ... "BALLANCE!"
jArEd: by peter schmitz I think
jArEd: " I DON't THINK IT's RIGHT'
jArEd: Larry is having a hot flash
downstairs lair: but aren't we making a book?!
Archive Station: LOL
downstairs lair: or sorry, making book...
jArEd: her face is red and is using ben's ice coffee dregs to cool her face
jArEd: oh shit!
jArEd: but is it about dancing??
downstairs lair: 🙊
downstairs lair: about dancing around dancing?
jArEd: cause I am NOT into that
Archive Station: Larry is sending all the literally all the: "hot love from my flaming ass face" to JOY
Archive Station: I don't think the book is about dancing
downstairs lair: noted, understood
Archive Station: or maybe it is?
joy!: omg larry i love you and i love your hot flash face. just don't pass out or whatever...sorry i took a dip a friend called me. and then my phone wasy 'meow'ing and then i talked on the phone and forgot i was in a chait room and theni see so much has happened.
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downstairs lair: Welcome to internet Lion's Jaw KimK
joy!: ok @downstairslair. ok i think i know you from my lab. thank you for coming back! ok work was cool. i mean the kid had a fit because i wouldn't get him scotch tape and then i felt guilty because i was a little 'rough' with him.... because eveything irritates me because i am PMSing... but he was DOING THE MOST at that moment and i was like we do NOT behave like that GO UPSTAIRS. and then he cried and i let him calm the fuck down and come to me. then he came down and i said i cannot help you i am cooking dinner for you and your mom is not here. but then he waited and then asked if we could call his mother and i said NO so he started crying again... (i am trying to let him learn that not every adult in his life will be available for him all the time) so he cried. and i sat with him and said it was fine to be sad, angry, frustrated. and to breath and then tell me what was happening. then he told me he wanted the tape which he has to do with an adult because he was making a comic book based on 'asterix' . so i said ok. we cannot do that now i cannot help you now but after dinner i promise we can go do it together and then you can take a bath and then mommy comes home. ok? he said ok. and then it was fine. so that was one job.. i worked also at school today with my students which ways a long production meeting with 3 year BA students trying to envision their work for the first time in a theater... but also in a festival. so i hope they say something at somepoint!
joy!: i also need to go to bed now and secretly watch bad american TV streaming from my comupetr. LARRY get at me. send me a love note or something on the internet.
KimK: Thanks. I want to explore more the idea of hot-flash dancing
KimK: I think it is a bit about NOT being in BALLANCE
downstairs lair: ooh productive teaching you do for child. happy bedtime to you.
joy!: @kimK i have to go to fucking bed... but yes so now is 22:05 here so it may be...6 hours earlier there. but i want to check back in the wee hours and see what all this hot flash dancing is about
Archive Station: Sleep well joy!
joy!: @downstairs? really? thank you... i am trying. i mean. i hope i am doing the right thing...so it means a lot for you to say that from over there 🤗
joy!: thanks all. eat some vegan ruban's for me can someone? xx. goede avond (or something almost dutch)
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downstairs lair: I am departing to wait tables. another person will occupy the position as downstairs lair
downstairs lair: bless you all
Archive Station: bless you!
Archive Station: downstairs lair love 💋
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downstairs lair: false alarm, I just got cut from waiting tables
Archive Station: oh oh good news, or maybe not. I'm trying figure out why the excellent merch pics won't show up on the site.. brb
Archive Station: welcome backkkkkkkk
downstairs lair: hoorah
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Archive Station: hi laurel!
laurel: hi hi how are the scans going?
Archive Station: scans are going well, but also a lot of emails coming in, and the chat has been pretty busy
laurel: 📌
Archive Station: how are you what are you up to?
laurel: what are people scanning?
laurel: i'm okay did a qi gong session this morning then made some fish
laurel: was gonna tattoo but it got canceled so now procrastinating
laurel: wondering if LJ could give me some movement inspo
laurel: get into a Bruce Nauman mood
Archive Station: Yes! get some inspo
Archive Station:if you scroll further down you will see some scans
http://yonkersinternational.press/lj2018/lionsjawbook.html
Archive Station: There are a few Bruce Nauman books in the used Book Store here.
Archive Station: shout out to http://www.rodneysbookstore.com/
Archive Station: what do you think B. Nauman would have thought about L. Jaw?
laurel: hmm good questions
laurel: n
laurel: question
laurel: oh i like the phone scans
laurel: okay i think that bruce nauman would...
laurel: want LJ to have it's own building
laurel: and that building would be spliced into hallways
laurel: one for each LJ participant
laurel: some of those hallways could turn into boxes, ie moveable walls
laurel: but enough people would have to agree to move walls
laurel: to make the boxes
Archive Station: and would there be dance classes?
Archive Station: or performance classes?
laurel: and no words could be used OR only the words "ready" and "enough" could be communicated to build
laurel: no classes
laurel: and the whole thing would be a "performance"
laurel: but don't think he would call it a performance
laurel: there would be video
Archive Station: oh Bruce...
laurel: live fee
laurel: d
laurel: instead of chat room
laurel: i think
Archive Station: i love this show
laurel: the event with the hallways would be happening
laurel: but no one explains anything
laurel: there is no clear beginning or ending
laurel: people just appear to take up as one leaves off
Archive Station: but would it still be a festival?
Archive Station: or is that just the Bruce Nauman show?
laurel: hmmm
laurel: don't think nauman is into festivals
laurel: but
laurel: i think he would offer this idea
laurel: and leave
laurel: and then LJ could turn it into a festival
laurel: so a festival container is built
laurel: to hold the nauman container
laurel: which is defined by literal space for bodies
laurel: LJ would overlay something more philosophical?
laurel: or maybe they would just have dinners
laurel: the happen in a tent
laurel: next to the nauman space
laurel: the festival would be full on celebration
Archive Station: celebration!
Archive Station: It's true, there is a lot of celebration happening here.
Archive Station: lots of old friends re-uniting.
laurel: that's nice!
Archive Station: Lots of people from other corners of the country finding each other
Archive Station: it is!
laurel: full expanse
Archive Station: and the space is basically windowless...
Archive Station: so it can feel very condensed
laurel: how many friends you making, archive station?
Archive Station: the lounge is chatty right now.
laurel: i like that tshirt
laurel: anything else good at the used bookstore
Archive Station: lol so far the archive chat has been full of friends
Archive Station: the book store was fullll of treats. A good mix of odd, newer books and old hits. And a really good selection of sections. Every shelf is a new catagory
Archive Station: the used book store and the festival share an instinct to bring together different approaches to knowledge
Archive Station: and this particular book store was very social
Archive Station: in fact two old friends re-united having not seen one another for 20 years.
laurel: how does LJ bring together different approaches to knowledge?
Archive Station: and one friend recounted all the gory detail of their divorce. LOUDLY!
laurel: woah divorce deets
Archive Station: LJ makes space for teachers to teach what they want, which one might argue could be homogenizing, but it seems to give a good mix of prespectives
Archive Station: its a good followup question to my very blunt assertion.
laurel: ah yes i remember you saying that now!
laurel: are you having fun in the lounge?
laurel: have you gotten to design the lounge?
Archive Station: design?
Archive Station: it was set up great when we arrived! i think Jared did it. (?)
laurel: move things around hang scarves mood lighting
laurel: aha
Archive Station: the two big couches face one another
Archive Station: the lighting is BLUNT. Overhead fluorescents for days
laurel: bellisimo
laurel: no
laurel: bellissimo
laurel: can i ask you to look for a book?
laurel: at the cool bookstore?
Archive Station: of course!
laurel: vibrant matter by jane bennett
Archive Station: we will search we will search
Archive Station: any book recommendations for a dance festival?
Archive Station: i need to stop calling it a dance festival! I am sorry all future readers!
laurel: what is it?
laurel: if it's not a dance festival?
laurel: i have a PDF rec
laurel: On Acting and Not-Acting by Michael Kirby
laurel: Performance Matrices
laurel: probably everyone there's read it.
laurel: news to my uneducated performance ideas
laurel: i also would like to recommend reading some fiction
laurel: i was going to say a specific author
laurel: but then realized that i like that writer for personal
laurel: reasons
laurel: that may not resonate.
laurel: and really the most important part
laurel: is to read fiction
laurel: my qi gong teacher would disagree
laurel: but i find that fiction allows for a different kind of thought
laurel: and relationship to language
laurel: to unfold
laurel: and can connect one to the abstract
laurel: poetry as welll, but that's a little different. poetry and dance seem very similar to me
laurel: 🌁
laurel: 👋
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Archive Station: Thanks for the recommendations, laurel! A heated conversation about phenomenology and improvisation, and a lot of scanning, took over the Station for a moment..
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Subject: Fw: Lion's jaw book project: PROMPT 1
hey joy,
i don’t feel i can answer the questions today or tomorrow, it’s too soon. i can’ articulate yet what I research or what my practice is.
it could come before end of october but i don’t wanna say things which would feel kind of wrong now.
is there a deadline? (i mean, i know the festival is short)
im in front of school, finally spent a bit of time in a studio. a lot of karaoke, and some dancing on dub, and some seaweeding also.
i guess i call it my baby-practice-of-today
Bonne nuit!
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Non-perpetuation of violence.
The other one is looking at relationship between ambition-quality-violence and how to disrupt and de-link them.
Both in and of dance education institution.
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Hi Leah!
is there any way we could chat via phone or in person this am at some point?
It’s about chalk on the wall of the black box. it will wash out and if for any reason it doesn’t we’d be glad to repaint that area - this is common practice for gallery spaces. My sense is it will wash off w no problem.
But let’s talk- glad to hash it out together and if it feels like a hard line on your end we’ll of course respect that.
thanks!
jared
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Subject: the escape
“it’s like when Jared’s cat escaped last night
Well it’s allowed to go out. But I didn’t know that.”
-Heidi Henderson 10/5/18
Enviado desde mi iPhone
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and passed Harvard
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Subject: Fw: 2018 Lion's Jaw Book Project
sure!
send my way,
hope to have time to answer in the next 2 days..
xo
adi
On 3 Oct 2018, at 14:24, joy mariama smith wrote:
hey you still have time so if you don't mind i will send you more things... maybe see you in oct
xx
HeyJoy,
Just now saw the email.
Busy times..
So i guess i am late anyway..
seems like good questions.
Have fun in the festival over there.
See you In october?
xo
ortunity around October 3rd/4th!
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Subject: Fw: 2018 Lion's Jaw Book Project
Hahahah great… Then looking forward for more to come :)
On Oct 3, 2018, at 1:36 PM, joy mariama smith
hey, worry not you have time. more soon...
Hey Joy.
Thank u much for including me into this book project - think it sounds REAL exciting! And I think all the questions are difficult and I would therefor love to engage with them.
I landed back in Amsterdam the day you wrote me and is still somehow more trying to land and move back in and so on, than that I have had time to reflect over these questions unfortunately.
I don’t fully get from your email, if you’re asking that we answer back within the 3rd/4th of OCT? Cause then I don’t think I’ll make it..
If it is for the end of Oct, then I’ll for sure try to engage with the questions and sent you something back.
And yearh looking forward to hear more about the Festival!
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ah i thought it was due today...since it send end of the month!
On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 12:03 PM joy mariama smith wrote:
good luck with your grant my dear
yeah do it when you can if you want
xx
buddy I have a grant due tomorrow...so haven't had head space to do this thing...but wish I did...keep me informed for the next round on oct 3/4!
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Dear Joy.
Thank you for this. I only checked it out now. Both the festival and your (website) project look interesting.
Though I didn't respond on time, I am curious to be kept updated.
Hope you are well.
Best,
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Subject: Some Excerpts of the CODE of this LIVING ARCHIVE
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Subject: netherlands
Performers: Heidi Henderson, Peter Schmitz
Sound/Music: "Unchained Melody" by Alex North and Hy Zaret
Description: Heidi adores Peter.
Performer: Anya Cloud
Sound/Music: Gotham City by YB MUZiK
Note: Special thanks to Karen Schaffman for seeing and responding in
support of this work and all of my work.
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jArEd: it's 7:30 am and I'm in a quiet house full of sleeping dancers is anyone here?
jArEd: I never know what time it is in other parts of the world without looking it up... I really want that. To 'know' time non-relatively
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joy!: ok buddy you could get that global clock. it is currently 13:56 here now and i have to walk to work. it's hot here today! so i will walk to work in is 19degrees
joy!: https://darksky.net/forecast/52.073,4.322/si24/en
joy!: so i will check in later in my night time to see who and what is kicking around
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TrainLife: I’m on a train! On the phone... seeing what’s up here. Xo
TrainLife: It’s beautiful here today. Sun and a bit of a chill.
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downstairs lair: Yeah, we're having a really good time. 2 bodies at the the desk. 17 people in Heidi this morning and an estimated 18 people in Tommy - studio runner for Tommy gave a qualitative over quantitative count.
downstairs lair: Coffee is being consumed. General fatigue has not yet begun to effect how people communicate. People seem to have patience and bubbling excitement to practice and share.
downstairs lair: Larry followed me on Insta
downstairs lair: We at the downstairs layer wish all at LJ a wonderful Friday, and are here to support, suggest, guide and answer any questions.
downstairs lair: lair**
downstairs lair: and layer tho tbh
downstairs lair: Michael is wearing 4 top layers, and 2 bottom layers. Molly is wearing pink floral pants that have some give to their structure. The estimated low for today is 43 degrees, so we hope word gets out to buy a sweater if one does not have one. "Should we point out that Good Will is just around the corner?" Good Will is just around the corner.
downstairs lair: it is also in the space here at GSS
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annnnyyaaa: hello. I love what's going on over there
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Archive Station: hey hey hey chat!
Archive Station: Archive station live from upstairs!
Archive Station: been dealing with some tech glitches but glad to be chilling in the chat lifestyle
downstairs lair: what glitches in particular? you said toner?
Archive Station: couldn't find toner anywhere! staples/target..
Archive Station: and then some issues downloading images to put in the site..
Archive Station: and then some new materials that need to go into the program before being printed
Archive Station: but it will sort nbd
Archive Station: up here is pretty chill, classes seem pretty gentle
Archive Station: Delany and Jared are figuring out tech stuff for the performances tonight
Archive Station: how was attendance today? lots of new people?
downstairs lair: I have faith in your abilities
downstairs lair: gentle morning embodiment with Heidi and Tommy
downstairs lair: no noobies, all people from yesterday, will update in the next 30 minutes. hoping for more drop-in, several day passes not yet picked up
Archive Station: totes
downstairs lair: re: feelings at the festival, a friend and former person I danced with just walked in. Went from seeing her once a week, to not so often. She just came in and we shared a long hug, and I am very happy that this place is a happening that brings people to each other.
downstairs lair: chat room/diary/excess
Archive Station: that's a really beautiful moment.
Archive Station: its funny. what the festival <
Archive Station: up here is bubbly and social
Archive Station: and one of the classes is leaving the space
Archive Station: im sure you will the them walking down and out soon by
Archive Station: *im sure you will see them walking out soon
Archive Station: they are being silent
Archive Station: they made us silent
downstairs lair: I wanna know where they are going
downstairs lair: and want to abandon my post
downstairs lair: am listening to their distance
downstairs lair: people steadily returning from their adventure
Archive Station: two people (one of them the teacher) have come back from the class
Archive Station: maybe the rest aren't far behind
downstairs lair: about 12 people have reentered
Archive Station: oh wait, here they are.
downstairs lair: some smile
downstairs lair: some turn around and address the space
downstairs lair: their eyes seem to be working a little differently
Archive Station: they remain silent
downstairs lair: there is a change in how they are performing and observing
downstairs lair: there is a dance that has begun in the downstairs lair
downstairs lair: their actions appear to be about a deepening in observation
downstairs lair: a scarf was just draped over the stairs
downstairs lair: there was a man that just entered, upon being greeted
downstairs lair: he muttered something under his breath
downstairs lair: and then cursed under his breath, something like, "fucking idiots"
downstairs lair: misquote for sure, but I don't think he intended to be heard
downstairs lair: the aforementioned change is in comparison to how they left
downstairs lair: thinking on how much space i am taking up here, but also think i may be competing for most time spent in the room & active in the room. Molly pointed out that we are a collective identity, as in 4 as 1. So, to calculate I am wondering do we divide the total time by 4?
Archive Station: I will pass by momentarily to go out. do you want anything? can i bring you anything?
Archive Station: You are down there until 2 today? By then end of the festival will you have spent the most time in the lair?
downstairs lair: I am kinda hungry and would love a kombucha if that is a item you can retrieve on your journey, and it doesn't take you too far out.
downstairs lair: I am here until 2. I am uncertain if I will spend the most.
Archive Station: A kombucha you shall have. Im going to go to the coop. xx brb
Archive Station: (/see you in a sec on my way out)
downstairs lair: pointing out that archive station did not put up an away message
Archive Station: i didn't know howww
Archive Station: its a lazy morning
downstairs lair: el oh el
Archive Station: this year feels moooooore familial this year
Archive Station: i don't know if its just because there are lots of repeats, or its because its the second I've (ben) have been here
Archive Station: but it feels very lovey this year
Archive Station: do you think so?
downstairs lair: I (fig) am in agreement
downstairs lair: I (Molly) am also in agreement
downstairs lair: A report from the outside world: I spotted 6 Lion's Jaw Partcipants between Green Street and Life alive. One in front of Harvest Coop (RIP), one inside target, two outside of Life Alive and two in Life Alive. A lot of people like vegetables.
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Squire: Lol
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jArEd: I'm listening to morrissey in the lounge
jArEd: and there are 12 bodies here
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jArEd: I feel as if I'm publicly having the smae conversations here again and again and it starts to feel weird or performative
Archive Station: hiiiii
Archive Station: yall, is lion's jaw a lovefest?
Archive Station: it feels really squishy today
Rayne: Tihs is my first year and experience with Lion's Jaw. Truth: I am supprised by how tired I am and how challenging some of the meditative/somatic practices are... Im questioning my endurance and limitations
Archive Station: yeah? how are the classes? can you say more?
Archive Station: I'm super curious, as i have not been dancing, and mostly been LIVE ARCHIVING
jArEd: yeah I hear you... it's interesting to explore capacity
jArEd: and what muscles we have strength or endurance in
jArEd: also where are the second and third winds and are they coming??
Rayne: haha The classes are great... Its just funny how direct/specific/simple a lot of the task are and the body feels after... like the classes seem long and extremely short at the same time
Archive Station: its a lot of concentrating on quite simple exercises you mean?
jArEd: haha yes
Archive Station: and that's exhausting?
Rayne: yes. lol
Archive Station: got it
Archive Station: I wish this room had a window!
Archive Station: (but i also like the cave)
Rayne: But its weird because im super into endurance training and beating what i could do yesterday, so I feel like im losing in some way lol
Archive Station: is Green Street Studios the ideal space for lion's Jaw?
Archive Station: oh really? that's more interesting than my question
Archive Station: I've just been thinking a lot about how specific this experience is to this building?
jArEd: weren't you set to do Alternativa? did you change your mind?
jArEd: (cross talk)
Archive Station: (cross talk)
Rayne: I was. I've beent trying to follow what I need and discovering that its slightly different from what i signed up for 🙊
Archive Station: So much of this festival seems to be about the socializing... maybe its related to the fact that people are also exhausted in a specific way, and it softens them up to being social
Archive Station: oh oh! What did you think you singed up for?
Archive Station: more phrase work? less phrase work?
Archive Station: lol
Rayne: I thought there would be more phrase work.. im not disappointed, and heidi's was definitely more phrase work!
Archive Station: Can i ask a personal question?
Rayne: yes..
Rayne: Also, I am dealing wiht hte guilt of exhaustion hahah
Archive Station: what are your dance aspirations?
Archive Station: are you dancing for a living? for fun? for research..?
Archive Station: 😊
Rayne: that's a personal question? I thought it would be a lot Jazzier lol
Archive Station: haha oops
Rayne: Currenlty, I am only dancing. I relocated from NYC to LA in May and have been "giging" since
Archive Station: gotcha gotcha
Rayne: I think dancing is clarifying its importance in my life!!! like I want to only be doing it
Rayne: only
Rayne: nothing else
Archive Station: and you came to Lion's Jaw to... improve? network?
Rayne: no more waiting tables would be great.. However; I am poor; I have student debt; I need to eat (sometimes)
Archive Station: amen amen amen
Rayne: I cam to Lion's Jaw because I have dance crushses on most of the faculty. I also have wanted to do this program for the past two years. I am interested in performance and asking myself what qualifies as such and I feel like the community here are curious about hte same things
Rayne: Also this is a super energizing place and its nice to feel like I am learning something new everyday! I like everyone here!
Archive Station: it is a love fest!
Rayne: Holly just gifted me a sweet potato salad!
Archive Station: Is there a scene like this in LA?
Rayne: you know... thats a good question. I havent been there long enough, but i dont think so.
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Ven Ban Buren: OK OK
Ven Ban Buren: HI
Bena Zibler: hi Ven
Ven Ban Buren: this is a sham chat
Ven Ban Buren: bc we are sitting across form one another
Ven Ban Buren: *from
Bena Zibler: #againstFORM
Ven Ban Buren: hey Bena
Ven Ban Buren: and we know one another
Ven Ban Buren: maybe that's worth acknowledging
Bena Zibler: It's true
Bena Zibler: And we arranged this encounter by email
Bena Zibler: sort of
Ven Ban Buren: yeah, so this is a staged talk into the comp
Ven Ban Buren: You organize Fleet Moves which is (was?) another festival that also took place in MA.
Ven Ban Buren: and that's where we met.
Bena Zibler: yes! we also had mutual friends that brought us into orbit with each other
Ven Ban Buren: bless them!
Ven Ban Buren: what have you been up to more recently? Fleet Moves last happened as a Festival (capital F) innnnn 2017, is that right? What has filled your time since?
Ven Ban Buren: (leading question BC I KNOW, but the people the world maybe do not)
Bena Zibler: 2016 actually
Ven Ban Buren: (I am having a hard time not actively making eye contact with you right now!) lol
Bena Zibler: i moved to LA to start (hey) a PhD program, which made it hard to continue performing in the administrative aspects of the festival
Bena Zibler: (a
Bena Zibler: (i'm not sure if it's an is or was)
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whodis?: hello chat room
Bena Zibler: Anyway, I'm in LA reading a lot about improvisation and supplementing it with some books on (and critiques of) phenomenology
Bena Zibler: hi JOY!
Ven Ban Buren: hi JOY!
Ven Ban Buren: Ven and Bena here, catching up.
Ven Ban Buren: @Bena
Ven Ban Buren: and what brought you to Lion's Jaw?
whodis?: man i thought i was being clever i wanted to try and use a n ailias
whodis?: it is 10:21 here
Bena Zibler: wow where's that?
Bena Zibler: @Ven I came to Lion's Jaw for a lot of reasons. 1- I met Jared Williams at an odd dance experience in Buffalo where we became fast friends. I've been curious about this fest and decided to say FUCK FOMO, just GO this year
Bena Zibler: And I also am trying to find ways to think from/through movement while i immerse myself in a lot of reading and writing
whodis?: (i am in the netherlands... right now in amsterdam)
whodis?: carry on...
Bena Zibler: And I'm really interested in hearing what other movers/makers here are interested in
Bena Zibler: Wow. So it's kinda late
Bena Zibler: Half of me thinks it's 1:23 because I came from Los Angeles
Bena Zibler: Straddling time
Ven Ban Buren: And you mentioned yesterday that Tommy (DeFrantz) is also dealing with Phenomenology in his work?
Ven Ban Buren: And you took his class this morning
Bena Zibler: Yes! Tommy's description was a prime motivator for me
Bena Zibler: I took his class on afroFuturequ##r
Ven Ban Buren: can you describe it a bit?
Bena Zibler: I think we will discuss phenom on Sunday
Ven Ban Buren: ok. After these first hours fo the LIVING ARCHIVE we have few instances of actual descriptions of classes. and while its not mandatory it would be nice to hear about if you are game!
Ven Ban Buren: How'd the class go?
Bena Zibler: sure thing
Bena Zibler: First, we introduced ourselves and discussed our relationship to afrofuturism and futurequ##rness...
Bena Zibler: I think we all had really different ideas about what those words meant
Bena Zibler: [in the background, i'm noticing a tiny bit of carefulness caused by my awareness that this will go into print, and my feeling of a lack of authority to describe this class]
Ven Ban Buren: fair enough fair enough
Ven Ban Buren: maybe I can ask you more generally about Phenomenology... and try to get Tommy in here to talk about class!
Bena Zibler: so one of the lightbulbs that went off in my head was that, while i have been interested in afrofuturism and queer futurities
Bena Zibler: ...
Ven Ban Buren: or go for it!!
Ven Ban Buren: lol
Bena Zibler: i have never (as a white straight person) imagined myself within those futures
Bena Zibler: and what i took away from the class was an invitation to participate in the imagination and inhabiting of other futures
Bena Zibler: and i also appreciated that i am already entangled with the histories that produced this present
Bena Zibler: as it is lived in multiple ways by different people
Bena Zibler: one other thing that feels important
Bena Zibler: is the difference between enlightenment (as the fiction of a shared answer, an agreement on what is possible) and WORLDMAKING, which allows for multiple possibilities
Ven Ban Buren: from whence the term WORLDMAKING?
Ven Ban Buren: was this used in class?
Bena Zibler: I think you should definitely talk to Tommy more about it because the way he wove together many themes was incredible
Bena Zibler: Yes, Tommy literally wrote over the word enlightenment with "worldmaking"
Bena Zibler: I took a pic that will be in the book, I think
Ven Ban Buren: it is it is, its up on the site now
Bena Zibler: It includes the other themes we discussed, which we were invited to collectively track on paper
Bena Zibler: 👍
Ven Ban Buren: 👍
Ven Ban Buren: and then... phenomenology?
Ven Ban Buren: I feel like I have a sense of class, and am definitely wanting to talk to Tommy.
Ven Ban Buren: But how'd you end up focusing on phenomenology?
Ven Ban Buren: maybe you could share briefly what that word means to you?
Ven Ban Buren: and how you bring it into contact with performance practice?
Bena Zibler: Well, I really wanted to write about dance from an experiential perspective, rather than through choreographic analysis (which is also great)
Bena Zibler: And I was interested in the ways that specific approaches to dancing require dancers to modify or specialize their sensing/perceiving
Bena Zibler: I was also interested in how specific approaches to dancing affect dancers' sensory appreciation of what is happening in their environments
Bena Zibler: So phenomenology, which is (as I understand it—and it's kind of new for me) is about studying experience through the mode of description
Bena Zibler: It centers the body as a site of knowledge, which is exciting to me
Bena Zibler: but canonical texts are mostly written by (surprise!) straight white male philosophers
Bena Zibler: But there have been several juicy interventions that I'm aware of
Bena Zibler: Sara Ahmed - Queer Phenomenology
Bena Zibler: Elizabeth Grosz - Volatile Bodies
Bena Zibler: They both assert the question of -- how are experiences shaped not only by our geographic/spatial location and the objects we associate with, but how are they also informed by our social/cultural positioning
Bena Zibler: ??
Bena Zibler: And I particularly love how Ahmed talks about disorientation
Ven Ban Buren: how's that?
Bena Zibler: If orientation - finding ourselves - getting organized - staying on the sidewalks - pairing off into heteronormative couples - climbing capitalist ladders
Bena Zibler: are forms of orienting
Bena Zibler: how can we understand disorientation as a productive place that reveals the limitations of orientation?
whodis?: (love sara ahmed-great book i used it in my thesis sortof)
Bena Zibler: how can we understand micro-aggressions, for example, as a form of re-orienting people?
Bena Zibler: YES!
Bena Zibler: I'm sure you have a more nuanced reading
Bena Zibler: I'm just getting started with this
Ven Ban Buren: Joy, are there any questions or interjections popping up for you?
Bena Zibler: I also wanted to say that James J Gibson, famous perceptual psychologist and the more contemporary Alva Noë describe disorientation as anti-perception
Bena Zibler: perception can't take place in disorientation
Bena Zibler: which makes me wonder if they dance / perform
Ven Ban Buren: I'm really interested to return to a word you used in your description of phenomenology "description"
Bena Zibler: because so many here seem interested in managing states of disorientation to REVEAL something previously obscured
Bena Zibler: but that requires that you modify your systems for understanding/integrating/classifying what you perceive
Bena Zibler: your landmarks, if you will
Bena Zibler: your ways of navigating
Ven Ban Buren: Description is? your landmarks? and ways of navigating?
Bena Zibler: Oh the description thing is kind of beautiful
Ven Ban Buren: do you want to say more about it?
Bena Zibler: The way I understand it is that phenom uses description to study experience, but assumes starting out that the fact of having body implies PERSPECTIVE (does it bother anyone if I use caps for emphasis)?
Bena Zibler: ?)
Ven Ban Buren: not AT ALL
Ven Ban Buren: 🙂
Bena Zibler: So if we are seeing through and as our bodies, our bodies will always be facing a certain way
Bena Zibler: and our bodies actually cover up certain perspectives that cannot be occupied by others while we are in them
Bena Zibler: (spatially, maybe it's easier to picture)
Bena Zibler: like if i'm sitting in this chair looking at you, you can't also be sitting in this chair
Ven Ban Buren: because we are MATERIAL
Ven Ban Buren: yes
Bena Zibler: and you can't see the chair because my butt is on it
Bena Zibler: [sorry]
Ven Ban Buren: lol
Bena Zibler: so i'm drawn to description because it's always an incomplete thing
Bena Zibler: never a totalizing truth
Bena Zibler: and depends on a variety of factors
Bena Zibler: (for ex: i paid money to come to lion's jaw...i have social connections to the organizers...i have some money to spend on dance experiences)
Bena Zibler: i fit in this chair
Bena Zibler: i feel comfortable in this social configuration.... and on and on and on
Bena Zibler: So anyway, Ahmed and Grosz (and I'm sure MANY others)
Bena Zibler: have pointed out the limitations of phenomenology based on the limitations of a white male perspective
Bena Zibler: and they have really enriched the conversation about what shapes our experiences
Bena Zibler: and i'm interested in how some improvised dance forms do a kind of phenomenology
Bena Zibler: and how they also make assumptions about the universality of their proposals
Bena Zibler: but you know what else is great???
Ven Ban Buren: what??
Bena Zibler: (also, say UNCLE anytime)
Ven Ban Buren: NEVER
Bena Zibler: (when you've had enough of this...anyone)
Ven Ban Buren: but I have a question?
Ven Ban Buren: please say what's great!
Bena Zibler: So what's great is....
Bena Zibler: That artists/dancers/makers seem to be part of a dialogue with each other
Bena Zibler: presenting counter-practices that account for / blow open each others' blind spots
Bena Zibler: I"m thinking specifically about an example
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Bena Zibler: I have studied Nancy Stark Smith's Underscore, which seems almost all encompassing -- as if the 40-odd glyphs encompass any possible action or perception possible inside of a contact improvisation jam
Bena Zibler: but then I had the gift of studying with Nia Love
jArEd: I was trying to crack anya cloud's back
Ven Ban Buren: hi Jared
Ven Ban Buren: lol
Bena Zibler: who placed the underscore inside of a cypher, shredding it, recontextualizing, and re-inscibing the glyphs in a new context
Bena Zibler: inscribing
jArEd: hello
Bena Zibler: can i say it again?
Bena Zibler: NIA LOVE
Bena Zibler: check her out
Ven Ban Buren: What is the role of language in rendering phenomenological descriptions?
Bena Zibler: is there gonna be a works cited for this chat?
Bena Zibler: shit
Bena Zibler: i think it's pretty limited to/by language
Bena Zibler: but that's not to say we should imagine new ways of doing/dancing it
Bena Zibler: TOMMY?
Ven Ban Buren: is the same true of dance/perfomrance forms?
Bena Zibler: 🙂
Ven Ban Buren: lol
jArEd: oh Nia LOve! I'm so excited to learn more about that
whodis?: (on the subject of nia's: also check out NIA KING)
jArEd: we spoke briefly last year and I'm looking forward to you telling me about that experience... she's powerful
jArEd: I'm just a man in a room in sportswear
jArEd: How can I possibly pick up where Zena left off?
Ven Ban Buren: http://www.niaking.com
jArEd: (Zena Left)
Bena Zibler: im' changing my pants
Bena Zibler: i feel different
Ven Ban Buren: Bena!
Ven Ban Buren: don't go!
Ven Ban Buren: we are just getting going!
Ven Ban Buren: I want to know what phenomenology adds to dance!
Bena Zibler: i know!
Bena Zibler: i want to keep talking
Bena Zibler: and i want to check in after checking in with TOmmy D
Ven Ban Buren: is it a lens or is it possible way of teaching?
Bena Zibler: I'm not sure yet...
Ven Ban Buren: do you think about it when you dance?
Bena Zibler: I think some dancing is actually doing phenomenology
Bena Zibler: I study dances that experiment with the dancer's perception as a starting point
Bena Zibler: so there's an assumption there that what you're paying attention to is informing your actions and your perceptions are informed by where you're standing and how you are moving
Bena Zibler: [SOUNDS FAMILIAR, right?]
Ven Ban Buren: LOL yesS
Bena Zibler: And then at the same time, there's a privilege to being in a safe plcae where you can experiment with your perception
Bena Zibler: like....
Bena Zibler: is an expanded consciousness part of American lust for the FRONTIER?
Ven Ban Buren: is it expand consciousness or is it religious piety?
Bena Zibler: Is the dance studio (in its emptyness) part of that?
Bena Zibler: I think it's both
Ven Ban Buren: a sense of being dwarfed by the largess of the Divine
Bena Zibler: I think it's also possible because of intersection with Eastern spiritual traditions
Bena Zibler: so there's a lot there
Bena Zibler: yeah
Ven Ban Buren: how then do we find actionable inroads to political action?
Bena Zibler: i think one way is to look at what's scripting our seeing/feeeling
Ven Ban Buren: are we working to find a way of seeing differently?
Ven Ban Buren: [sorry]
Ven Ban Buren: yes
Bena Zibler: not just seeing, let's bring in the other senses
Bena Zibler: as a white person, thinking about phenomenology is also thinkign about positionality, and questioning the mechanisms that not only shape how i see (feel, touch), but what i SEE-AS
Bena Zibler: how do i interpret
Bena Zibler: decide what's worth paying attention to?
Ven Ban Buren: is that what interpretation is?
Bena Zibler: I suppose
Bena Zibler: but in phenomenology, we see things as already having meaning, even before we interpret cognitively
Bena Zibler: we see AS something
Bena Zibler: I don't just see the fridge as an abstraction
Bena Zibler: I see it as what it can do for me
Bena Zibler: (sort of cynical)
Bena Zibler: or i see it as a threat
Ven Ban Buren: what about the work of art?
Ven Ban Buren: does it enjoy a special status?
Bena Zibler: fuck
Ven Ban Buren: because if I think back to HIGH MODERNISM than I think about how such critics as Greenberg
Ven Ban Buren: would argue that interpretation...
Bena Zibler: ben this is a cliffhanger
Bena Zibler: i'm sorry but i have to go
Bena Zibler: yes - in the west, we continually fetishize art as outside of all the other shit
Ven Ban Buren: or that the INTENTION of the author is not something that can be called upon when interpreting the meaning of a work of art
Bena Zibler: i think art is always being seen in a context
Bena Zibler: and that context changes and is specific to the perceiver and the time and the place
Bena Zibler: and i think there's a lot of investment in designating art as a special zone (and sports maybe) where politics/life can't enter
Bena Zibler: a refuge
Ven Ban Buren: of course, but how can the limits of that situation be shared by a group
Ven Ban Buren: ?
Bena Zibler: and it both is and isn't
Bena Zibler: (for me)
Ven Ban Buren: how do we find ways of being in touch with strangers?
Bena Zibler: i still have to go
Ven Ban Buren: ...ok
Bena Zibler: jaamil might way though gestures of radical intimacy
Ven Ban Buren: lol im kinda just pulling you leg at this point to!
Bena Zibler: say**
Bena Zibler: i feel it
Bena Zibler: am feeling it
Ven Ban Buren: YOU
Bena Zibler: can we take this up again on or off the chazz?
Ven Ban Buren: I guess I want answers
Bena Zibler: chat
Ven Ban Buren: YES
Ven Ban Buren: chzz
Ven Ban Buren: chazz
Bena Zibler: 💗
Ven Ban Buren: 💔
Bena Zibler: you're really good at typing
Ven Ban Buren: Bibbler is gone. Anybody around?
Ven Ban Buren: lol
Ven Ban Buren: Jooooy?
Rayne: hi joy.. im a fan. thanks for what you give 🙂
whodis?: i am still here. seriously
whodis?: @rayne... thank you for saying that! 🙂i really am doing my best
whodis?: did a class just start/end? what is happening. it was full for a minute and then not so full now
whodis?: i also realized that i thought in a chat room... it was actually more like a house so i had it in my head that many chats could happen at once..but that is not true at all.
whodis?: it's really a dyad...
whodis?: i wanted to tell someone about work today because things took a nice turn from yesterday...
Archive Station: whats up whats up?
Archive Station: how was work?
Archive Station: And yes, a class started.
whodis?: thank you archive station!
Archive Station: And totally, it's really a conversation stadium... it's hard to have a long-form group chat. 🙂
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jArEd: Joy! I miss you
whodis?: ok today... today alex was very sweet to me. which was good because yesterday you (or someone ) may remember, he was doing the moste. so today i was already super grumpy. i was not going to take him to the park. i just was not having any shennanigans. (miss you too jared come to ponderosa) so today he told me about school recited two poems and sang one song.
Archive Station: two poems and a song? brilliant. sounds like Lion's Jaw
whodis?: but here is the kicker... he sang me two songs that he made up! one song was when we were painting a picture of 'obelix and asterix' this frech shit. so thoes two both wear helmets and he was saying what color they were which was grey
jArEd: I plan on it really soon. what were those song like?
jArEd: I love that comic- I used to read it when I was little
whodis?: he was also using all the paint colors so the paint water.. so the water turned grey... (hang on for the songs)
whodis?: [pretty sure that shit is racist agaist everyone look at it again]
whodis?: so the first song was 'i like grey, i like grey, i like grey i like grey'🎶
whodis?: it wasy pretty dope.
Archive Station: awww lovely
jArEd: wow
whodis?: the 2nd song was after i had chased him around the bedroom naked for a while... wait he was naked i was chasing him. hahaha 🙂 to get him to take a damn shower
jArEd: the grey song
jArEd: insta-love
jArEd: yes now that I think of it's racists and sexist and all sorts of phobic
Archive Station: this sounds like a way better day from yesterday!
whodis?: so he look a shower and he did it very well and he EVEN cleaned his penis the proper way- which is important and he is learning how to do because he's four and and has forskin... so he has to that shit himself... and he did it!
Archive Station: ef yes, Alex!
whodis?: so he gets out and puts on his towel robe... and is laughing and hugging me and asking me to tie the robe up nice so he can be like a boker
whodis?: i mean boxer
Archive Station: a boxer with a cape?
Archive Station: ahhh
Archive Station: no i understand
whodis?: and then he sings me the following song: 🎶 'i like your hair , i like your hair , i like your hair🎶 i like your hair...
whodis?: then we took my hair and gave me a mustache and a beard and laughed. and he touched my hair. but in this case it was ok.
whodis?: because i haven't taught him yet not to go around touching black folx hair without asking... i mean he's four.
Archive Station: he's jsut learning to clean his penis
whodis?: no like a.. rocky or something like a figther in a room.
whodis?: YES
whodis?: thank you.i really wanted to tell (you) someone that, because yesterday was some BULLSHIT
Archive Station: (yeah i got the boxer thing.. took a second)
Archive Station: and now you are home? winding down?
whodis?: jared what's good ?
Archive Station: Jared has left his computer...
whodis?: i have no home i am homeless but yes i am the place i will sleep. and i am just drinking mineral water and eating pretzel sticks
Archive Station: (not the homless part)
Archive Station: (*homeless)
whodis?: i think i should go... because i feel like i am dominating the chat room
Archive Station: Not hardly!
whodis?: i like it when there are more people and it gets confusing..
Archive Station: Actually, can we ask: how does Lion's jaw look from afar??
whodis?: is that ok? sure. it doesn't look like anything.
whodis?: i mean. i was there last year so when i see photos it looks like it looked last year.
whodis?: and i always wonder why people want to scan their hands...
Archive Station: ha
whodis?: right now it feels like i am looking in a snow globe and lionsjaw is a closed system... that is in a bigger system...and i am looking in... but things are obsureed somehow because i am not IN the snowglode
whodis?: globe...
Archive Station: right.. how can we work to grack the Globe glass?
Archive Station: *crack
Archive Station: what kind of info do you find yourself craving?
whodis?: i mean i don't know. i am just not there... i don't want to be there... and i am not sold on the fact that the globe glass begs to be cracked
whodis?: i overheard a conversation the other day about festivals and ...is it heterotopia.. hang on
Archive Station: ok
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whodis?: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterotopia_(space)
whodis?: yes that is the word. festivals are a form of heterotopia. and with that i must fuck off gently into this great night.
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Archive Station: From Wikipedia : Heterotopia is a concept elaborated by philosopher Michel Foucault to describe certain cultural, institutional and discursive spaces that are somehow ‘other’: disturbing, intense, incompatible, contradictory or transforming. Heterotopias are worlds within worlds, mirroring and yet upsetting what is outside. Foucault provides examples: ships, cemeteries, brothels, prisons, gardens of antiquity, fairs, Turkish baths and many more. Foucault outlines the notion of heterotopia on three occasions between 1966-67. A talk given to a group of architects is the most well-known explanation of the term. His first mention of the concept is in his preface to 'The Order of Things' and refers to texts rather than socio-cultural spaces.[1]"
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raoni: i'm so confused about this chat room. but i like it. i loved reading about alex nd the songs, and the naked chasing into shower.
raoni: also chatrooms are everything!
raoni: today i wrote a letter that was really draining hard and confusing
raoni: and i had a grindr date. i had green mocha chai latte. which was delicious. and the person was puerto rican, but sounded like a narrator from national geographic. sooo white!
raoni: he was mansplaining a lot. making general statements, about how life works. etc. gender stuff came up. i got insecure about my intelligence. feeling like i had to prove myself to this person.
raoni: YET i stayed, and we talked for almost 3h. he later texted me if i wanted to go to a play party with him. to watch together. i said i want to go to playparties that are queer and center BPOC and. i asked him if he was family, as in queer.
raoni: he answered: lol i'm as straight as a circle and i'm a boy from the islands and love people from all cultures and skin colors.
raoni: what do you think this means?
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outside: oh! from outside @raoni...when you get this. i think it means that he is not straight and if you are up for you it you can find out more. rememebring that you can always leave when you want to
outside: obviously it is too early across the pond but when someone checkis in on here can you give me a somatic poem response to the performances last night? or describe them?
outside: i look forward to hearing from you
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Hey Jared,
So sorry for the delay here. I am traveling and have limited access to email and phone.
I hear you re: galleries, but as a black box theater we're not in the practice of painting between performances, nor is it included in the cost of our theater rentals. I trust the judgment of Nick and Molly to determine how using chalk is appropriate. I'm optimistic this won't be the case, but if there is any trace on the walls after the performances, GSS will repaint and the cost will just be deducted from the LJ security deposit.
In the future, let's make sure this type of alteration to the space is discussed during the production meeting or earlier so you don't have the added stress of working this stuff out last minute!
I've heard the festival is going great. Congrats and I hope the rest of the weekend continues to go well.
Best,
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Train Life: @joy the performances went really well
Train Life: How to describe....
Train Life: Oops @outside I mean...
Train Life: Somatic Response:
Train Life: Standing on one leg
Train Life: Invited to see
Train Life: Often asked to listen
Train Life: After the long day wih everyone the gap between teachers and students is quite small. They are people on stage
Train Life: You can feel their calm and their nerves
TAN: @outside hmmmmmhmmmmhmmhmhhhmm rotate curvy circles through my body while I dance in a circle try to catch me. Heidi and Peter poem
TAN: @outside Burst and live like every piece of glitter in the world. Take it all in then sit there and listen to these words. “I need a liberating philiosphy coming from whiteness” listen listen listen. Jamil poem
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jArEd: hi it's jared
jArEd: I'v been here weeping in the lounge
TAN: @outside bounce bounce bounce squat. Bounce bounce bounce squat... now sway... now sway... perform the limits of your body remember your power. Listen respond listen listen you can talk or just listen. Anya poem
jArEd: and the pieces last night so brave
jArEd: Tommy's
TAN: @outside intermission
jArEd: Anya being so patient until it happened
jArEd: 10 o'clock the parking lot next door opens for outside dancing/journaling/standing
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outside: ok. i got it. tahnk you this is lovely...i am in for the day hope someone joins me soon...
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Izik: hi :-0
Izik: hi joy!
Izik: hi everyone
Izik: somatic poem response: it didn't matter that my chair was uncomfortable
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Rayne: Somatic Response poem: glitter and other relatable things
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misterfig: good afternoon festive people
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Rayne: is anyone out therer
Rayne: anyone!!!
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BVB: hiiiiii
BVB: today is a day of a quite lounge
downstairs lair: the quietness feels tender
downstairs lair: somatic poem response: bravery that i feel my body comes online (gratitude) to be present with
downstairs lair: heyyyyyy
downstairs lair: Quote from Kirstie's workshop a few days ago: "We are lying on a living, breathing body with a fernace at the center, pushing us up into infinite space."
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insideout: ey
TAN: Heel through what’s available find what matters cherish what feels right follow the sacred geometry and you’ll never get lost. Explode with color. Explode with sound. Explode with glitter. Explode with ginger, turmeric, lemon, and honey. Beat out the eucalyptus. ALTERNATIVA poem
TAN: Replicate yourself. Dubplicate yourself. And talk and move with ur mirror. Now separate see how your different and how you move eachother. Now measure the length of your bodies and jump the measuring tape together. Marie & Jill poem
insideout: oooo😉
TAN: Learn from your ancestors taken in their knowledge give them a voice. Explode till you you drop. Lick the air and drop. Be queer and drop. thomas de franz poem
TAN: Show ends 10:15pm
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insideout: I just discovered that you can change the background of the chat room by going to room action and then changing the room skin which is pretty cool check it out
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BVB: hey hey, anyone in here?
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BVB: heeeeeey
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Bed Roomer: hey!
BVB: you flipping coin's Bed Roomer?
BVB: how is it down there?
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Bed Roomer: ....noooo....
Bed Roomer: but its delightful down ehre
Bed Roomer: three tickets sold already!
BVB: wow wow popular!
BVB: are we gonna sell out?
BVB: was last night sold out?
Bed Roomer: i don't know for sure. I know we have more people who have bought tickets already for tonight than last night
BVB: cool, cool, cool
Bed Roomer: do you by chance watch Community?
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BVB: lol no alas i don't
BVB: why?
Bed Roomer: one of the major characters has a catch phrase thats "cool, cool, cool"
Bed Roomer: and so whenever i encounter the triple cool in the world, I'm curious
BVB: ha! that's funny! i was just thinking the other day that repeating affirmations is a vocal trope i have.. and don't know why
BVB: what's the crowd like down there?
BVB: hey Kathryn!
Kathryn: hi! I had to go move the ladder but I am back now
Kathryn: Things are good in here. We are opening the house in maybe 15-25 minutes
BVB: move a ladder?
BVB: hows the tech situation?
BVB: expecting a smooth show?
bean: @rayne’s pants are stunning
Bed Roomer:
well, I was snacking on some goldfish, and stored that upon finishing. Sasha is currently eating a much better looking meal than that.
we sold another ticket just now. but no one is hanging down here with us. it's cold
Kathryn: yes! We are doing a mic check right now.
BVB: yes bean!!
Kathryn: We are feeling as prepared as we can be right now so we expect things will go really well!
Bed Roomer: Rayne has some of the best outfits
BVB: truly a fashion icon
bean: i’m proposing a lion’s jaw fashion show next year to showcase all the excellent adidas and wide leg pants
BVB: knock on wood Kathryn
BVB: ha, bean yes, i think in general an extra-circular group activity would be fun
Kathryn: sure will!
BVB: how much tech time did each artist have anyway, Kathryn?
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Kathryn: I think it was around 30 minutes for each artist, but some used less time allowing others a bit more
BVB: dam
BVB: whats up shirmp
Kathryn: Yep, the first tech night we ended around midnight and the second we left here at 1am.
Kathryn: Hard work but totally worth it!
bean: the communal napping is the first step, BVB
BVB: The lounge just got quite.....
BVB: yessssssssssss
Kathryn: Im going to do a final sweep of the space now. See everyone at the show!
BVB: see u at intermission nerd!
BVB: a lot of people have been sleeping in here, but never all at once
Shrimp: Yes agree with a fashion show
bean: gotta get a dog pile nap situation going on
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BVB: or maybe a literla sleepover
BVB: literal
Bed Roomer:
a lions jaw sleep over, huh?
like a lions den or something. i like it
BVB: ok. lets make it happen
BVB: hows the front of house?
BVB: any cool people coming tonight?
BVB: lol
Bed Roomer: I mean. I assume you'll be there. it don't get no cooler than that
BVB: shut ur damn mouth
Bed Roomer: but with the temperature in studio one during performance, no. no coolness. but a lot of hot folks 😉
BVB: are there lots of people from the hip boston scene on the list.....?
BVB: hhhhahaha
BVB: yeah i didnt realize how HOT it was until we came out after and it was so cooooooool
BVB: but describe someone
BVB: like what does this audience wear?
BVB: ANSWERRRRRRRRRRRRRR
BVB: 😇👀
Bed Roomer:
I'm alternating between this chat and peopling and other realms of the internet. so i apologize for my delays.
hhhmmmmmmm. well, largely clothing has been the dominating factor in appearance. layers (its chilly out there), but nothing overtly notable yet.
There as three men that looked like a son, father, and grandfather, so potentially three generations of one bloodline are present
Bed Roomer: the main thing is everyone enters, sees us, and then pauses, which is kind of a fun composition to notice
BVB: hahaa wait why?
BVB: is it not clear that you are a box offic?
BVB: *office?
BVB: and re: clothing, gotcha. let me know if there is any fashion of note
BVB: the lounge is goofy rn
BVB: Jared is talking like Batman
Bed Roomer: or it's not clear what they're supposed to say to us? Who knows.
Bed Roomer: Which batman
BVB: the new one
BVB: with the husky voice
BVB: are tickets expensive? relative to other shows in town? would you say?
Bed Roomer: hmmm....i dont normally see shows im not either in or comped for. The tickets are about the price of shows for one of the companies i dance with, if not a little bit less. but i'm not a good gauge on the average around town
Bed Roomer: im poor, and not a socialite. two things that dont result in seeing much that isnt comped haha
BVB: lol
BVB: getting busy?
BVB: the lounge is pretty packed with festival people. no one wants to sit in the theater yet
BVB: do lots of boston dance people come to lion's jaw? do some people stay away..?
Bed Roomer: a lot of people from the contact improvisation community have showed up between last night and tonight
BVB: cool cool cool
Bed Roomer: i havent seen as many contemporary professionals around
BVB: wow its really a part up here. two ppl brought beer! (sorry to teassssseeeee uuuu)
Bed Roomer: that arent already part of the festival
Bed Roomer: ITS A PARTY DOWN HERE TOO
Bed Roomer: SHUSH
Bed Roomer: WEVE GOT
Bed Roomer: uhhh.....
Bed Roomer: nevermind. customers
Bed Roomer: weve got customers 😉
BVB: lllloooolllllllllll
BVB: why do the contemporary PROFESSIONALS stay away do you think?
BVB: you gotta be heating up down, its 17min to showtime
BVB: *down there...
Bed Roomer: im not sure. i know one of the companies i dance with has a photo shoot tonight. i tried advertising. but they're either from far out and dont want to commute, or teach all day and are lazy
Bed Roomer: or dont value any kind of dance that isnt from their bubble. which ive encountered a little bit of
BVB: sorry if that Q was a little too personal. but i gotcha, audience attendance over tow nights does not telll the whollle story of the festival
BVB: let me know when you come up to watch!
BVB: that's when ill dip.
Bed Roomer: haha no sorries friend!
Bed Roomer: weve got a steady flow of humans
Bed Roomer: which is exciting!
Bed Roomer: and this vending machine is getting all kinds of action
BVB: eff yes!
BVB: really??
BVB: i guess cuz we don't have a bar
BVB: fashion update?
Bed Roomer: still nothing too fantastic 😟
Bed Roomer: muggle
BVB: HA
BVB: sooo mostly Patagonia and jeans.....? Plaid and sweat pants?
BVB: doc matrins and leather?
BVB: nudity?
BVB: Im bailing! gonna get a seat!
BVB: seeeeeeee yoooooouuuu soooooonnnn⏳
Bed Roomer: 💗
Bed Roomer: it's almost go time!
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Beyond your role as ____________ how do you seek
out chances to exchange techniques/strategies/tools/practices with others?
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why archive a festival???... or WHY ARCHIVE
Dear ones,
not many people have responded to my emails or the prompts which is very telling because this is an experiment in archiving. today is sunday. the festival ends tomorrow. i'd appreciate it if even just 1 or 2 of you took a moment to write back to THIS PARTICULAR EMAIL i really want to know why we are compelled to archive things. answer today if you can or tomorrow.
it would really mean a lot to my practice and this research...
i know the mass email may not be too appealing, but it is the most efficient way for me to reach the breadth of people/minds that i want to engage with...i am sending this to you so you can have input. because i admire you,
so just think about it
even if it is a selfie, a poem a link to a video or a short sleepy email
this all counts.
maybe it has to do with being/staying connected?
or how we connect with ourselves/each other/our community?
i am excited to hear from you! this may be the 2nd to last prompt!
so i'd appreciate at least a response saying you got/are getting my emails
thank you! i know you are busy!
xx
j
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Beyond my role as performer or dancer or whatever label feels appropriate for describing my presence in a particular setting (in this case, I guess we’re talking about a festival), I generally hang with people at the festival center or wherever else drinks are provided for free or for some discount with my festival badge. I don’t know why a festival needs to be archived. I don’t know why 98% of things need to be archived. We are archived-out. Maybe just in case some brilliant thing makes its debut at said festival, but how often does that happen? I’ve so rarely peaked into a festival archive that I might have to say that I’ve never done it. I’ve never read the festival log. I’ve rarely looked at the Photos. I don’t have a practice to exchange. I recently ended up participating in a slightly drunken and uncomfortable sidewalk talk in front of a bar which wasn’t directly related to the festival although many of us ended up there at 3:30 in the morning. It was annoying and necessary, revealing and heated and informative on many levels. The archive of that conversation lives in me, in us. Nobody will read these words except for you, so what’s the point?
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3 contradictions re: The documentation of everything
Contradiction #1: Archiving is heavily over-rated in this digital+selfie era. People are generating WAY TOO MUCH material that will NEVER BE READ. It used to be more common to criticize people taking pictures during live performances because of the ways that using a camera shifts the audience into other time/spaces or consciousnesses but somehow we not only tolerate the more precious practice of "Documenting for the Archive" but we turn ever event, no matter how small or ritualistic, into a multi-modal surveillance event. Multiple cameras, sound recording, plus drawing and writing.
Contradiction #2: Previous generations challenged the consumer and capitalist fetish of the object but today they (Fluxus, conceptual, and performance artists, especially Marina) capitalize on the documents of their early ephemeral work for niche fame and a little fortune. Tino Seghal, instead of creating a new practice for all of us, created a personal brand out of rejecting objects and documents. If another artist proposes the same practice it is considered a shitty copy, not a good idea following a radical precedent. If you're really lucky documentation might pay your rent in 25 years. Probably not.
Contradiction #3: White supremacist capitalist heterocispatriarchy has systematically devalued everything except a very narrow brand of hegemonic fetish culture. For artists struggling for visibility, viability, and value it has become crucial to seize control of the production of narratives, of histories, of representations. I'm referring to indigenous, Black, POC and non-white artists, to women, queers, rural, dis/abled, and poor artists, among many others. Thus, we reclaim documentation and the archive. We use the smart phone to recording racist police violence. We use the zine, the blog, the podcast, the collectively created artist's book, the archiving of journals and photo albums, the collecting of posters, programs, used costumes and props, process notes, snapshots, FB posts. And thus, too much stuff. More hoarding with inadequate editing, digestion, and cataloguing. But in 10 or 40 years it might inspire a new generation getting shit on by the current regime, affirming that their life matters and that weird DIY niche creative projects can create spaces of healing, inspiration, play, resistance, and survival.
love you Joy
peace to the folks of LionsJaw
X, the bitter anarchist faggot phd (punk hippy dancer)
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hej there,
a short answer. I hadn't gotten any of your prompts, this e-mail is the
first one. so not sure if I accidentally wasn't on the first list or
just accidentally landed on the list for this email.
i'd be happy to answer that one but am missing context, maybe fron the
first email / prompts?
anyway, didn'T want to leave this one hanging. sleepy email it is. hope
you're good
xx
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Subject: Fw: lionsjway book prompt 4 ( and subprompt)
Hey there Joy,
I was not aware of these prompts so far, and I´m not really sure what to
do with it. Maybe there was a score? I´ll take a chance and just respond
what comes to my mind, briefly:
I love to connect. Also with you, you are a great connector! When I
first came to Ponderosa, it was you who made me feel welcome and
connected to the space and people.
So this is my memory, simultaneously shared and archived in an email.
Speak soon,
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Subject: Fw: lionsjway book prompt 4 ( and subprompt)
Dear Joy,
please find my answers bellow.
I appreciate your effort to reach out and ask this questions, to stay connected.
the form of emails and writing is hard for me… I am learning to connect in this way..
I am more a meeting live connecting to people kind of a person..
Hope to see you In October stolzi or berlin.
Good luck on the last day of the festival
With gratitude,
Beyond your role as ____________ how do you seek
out chances to exchange techniques/strategies/tools/practices with others?
By meeting people live, chat, promote feelings over thinking, exchange touch, listen to the energy, follow the energy and not the ego. collect as many experiences as possible in this life time. Implement the different techniques/strategies/tools/practices in daily life, through connecting to others and their practices.
why archive a festival???... or WHY ARCHIVE
archive to capture history, to pass on wisdom, ideas, knowledge, to remember what has happened but also let it go and move forward. Acknowledge the past in relations to the present and how we create the future. archive as a way to get inspired by others who have walked the path, and continue with ours.
archiving in the past was by telling stories and pass them on through generations. maybe archiving through material is a way to control the way the information is passing through, and that no one can change it as it is “black on white”
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I also recorded a voice note response to yesterday’s prompt but didn’t get around to sending. Will do now!
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Beyond your role as ____________ how do you seek out chances to exchange techniques/strategies/tools/practices with
others?
Workshops, residencies, online forums, long email discussions with long distance friends facing similar issues/interests, YouTube recommendations, sharing podcasts/articles
subpromt: why archive a festival???... or WHY ARCHIVE
To leave a legacy/record of your existence/activities for posterity
To have agency in telling your own story
To share info
To reach people who weren’t present
Archive fever
Future marketability
Aspirations for immortality
“If it’s not googleable it doesn’t exist”
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subpromt:why archive a festival???... or WHY ARCHIVE
Sometimes I sit and try to walk through old places I’ve lived in my mind. I’m not very good at it. I wonder if people who live the same place for longer have better memories, if the memories get attached to and stimulated by the surroundings. Or maybe it's the opposite, maybe it all blends together. I archive for projected future nostalgia. I think about my kids going through my photos or emails. I don’t have kids. But I imagine them. What will they find? I want them to find the hilarious things, and the amazing long emails I used to write to close friends. But it seems unlikely given the 88K emails already in my archive. I’m glad this email is in it too, because I love you. I imagine gmail is archiving because data is money. But why archive a festival? I don’t know! to make it something else. To choreograph the moments and write a story for the future to imagine about what happened. And maybe to preempt aggressive future researchers from objectifying you? Or at least to choose your own objectification?
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Hi Joy this is the first prompt email I’ve received from you. I checked my inbox and junk box, but had nothing related to this subject before today.
Hope its not too late to reply:
Beyond your role as ____________ how do you seek out chances to exchange techniques/strategies/tools/practices
with others?
I guess by attending events like workshops, artist’s talks and performances. Also festivals. I try to talk with people i meet in these spaces, but they’re not really good time for lengthy discussions, so i’d say i’ve made contact with people more than done much exchanging of techniques etc. Here in NL i’ve found it really difficult to connect with other practitioners to exchange in any meaningful way.
subpromt: why archive a festival???... or WHY ARCHIVE
I’m guessing you’re talking about a form of tangible archive - physical evidence and digital? To enable people who couldn’t attend to still access some of the event. Archiving acts as a record of what occurred, important when it involves representation of certain people who are usually erased from archives and stories. I also see the experience of each attendee as an archive, so how each person shares their experience of the festival also becomes an archive. Recounting memories/experiences orally, activities a person does as a response to what they experienced at the festival, things that enable the festival to live on after it ends.
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Five Images for now
Someone planted Black stiped Adidas pants in farmland. Time lapse view of striped addidas tree sprouting up in the middle of the field.
The big dipper seen barefoot from wet grass. 1st perspective: where it is in the sky from Berlin. 2nd perspective: where it is in the sky from Boston.
My grandmother examines herself in a mirror. She’s wearing a wig of grandmother hair.
A single, shiny-backed beetle marches from one side of the road to the other, somehow barely avoiding the wheels of enormous cars barreling forward, one after the other
A blue marble rolling back and forth on a curved wooden surface
Ten minutes of questions
Why is the first color always red? Is red the color you think of when you think of blood? Why do I always think of blue when I think of blood? Why do I always think of things how they are before they actually become what they are? What do I mean? Is what I mean that blood in the veins are like thoughts which are not yet put into words? Is blood also in bones? Are bones hard and old and unmovable? If so, how could they possibly be home to a moving thing like blood? What is the movement of blood through bones? If I have old bones is the blood inside them old too? Why are there so many things which are full of things which are not like them at all? Why can’t immobile things only be filled with stillness and old things be filled only with old things? If you had an old hat, what would you fill it with? If you could choose what objects would appear inside your skull, what would you put there? What would you see? How would those things you see become what they are? Would they become holograms? Would they become sentences? Would they become seconds? Would they become drops of spit?
Crying
Ben, in a commercial. Kai is watching TV.
Ben, in the commercial: In america, we cry more. We have crying couches. We have signs above the couches labeled CRYING COUCH.
Kai, talking to Ben inside the TV: Where can I buy a crying couch? Do you ship to europe?
Ben, talking to Kai from inside the TV: All Americans have a crying couch inside them. Have you accepted the crying couch inside you yet?
Kai: Is that like accepting Jesus as my personal savior? No. I have not accepted the crying couch inside me.
Ben: Well, if you can’t find it inside yourself I can sell you one for 5,000 dollars. Not including taxes. And shipping.
Sign
An old man on a boat. He’s singing a country song:
Give me a sign, by and by, give me a sign. I lost my dog, I lost my wife, I lost my pick up truck! the fish won’t bite, nothing tastes
right, and the tears have ceased to flow!
Give me a sign, by and by, oh lordy give me a sign.
A sign a sign, oh nothin is mine! It’s all just a lot of nothin!
I got plenty of nothin, and it used to be plenty for me.
But now I’m of a mind
To ask for a sign, a sign
Tell me which way to go so I can be free.
10 statements about the festival
At the festival we exchange practices and exchange about the things which support practice
The festival makes all the things which support practice easier to access - food, time, space, people
The festival is a place to access practices, practice practices, and digest practices
The festival exists in the shared space between the people who are there
The festival is a creature-like entity which experiences tiredness, desire and roller coaster emotions and energy levels
While part of the festival creature you can develop new body parts
The festival allows for generous giving and receiving
The festival offers possibilities which you can accept or strategize around
The festival is greater than the sum of its parts
The festival is for dancing
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blahfemme: ok so! huzzah: good chats everyone great morning read. so there were performaces last night and also the thing happens tonight...
blahfemme: i wanted to ask again for somatic poem responses to performance last night, but then one-up that by also asking for computer generated poem of performances... let me see if i can link you to something..
blahfemme: http://www.cutnmix.com/
blahfemme: sleep well/slaap lekker
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downstairs lair: A group young folks have just registered for Anya's Class. Probably our youngest participants to date.
downstairs lair: Soundtrack at the Registration desk: Lion's Jaw was typed into the Spotify Search Bar. This is the current playlist
downstairs lair: it's really calm and quiet downstairs and outside, the energy of a Sunday in Boston - solo pedestrians walking calmly by, breeze can be both heard and felt...a person came in just now to take a ballet class that occurs here every Sunday, tried to sell them on Aerobics at 11:30...didn't go over well.
downstairs lair: thoughts are coming to me about the differences between the two shows, and in particular, I am thinking about the framing around age and history that were present last night - the welcoming of projection, or maybe meeting things with your own history that was abundantly clear last night
downstairs lair: being raised Catholic, I thought I'd understand the biblical undercurrent that was present, but I didn't close read that way at all
downstairs lair: your = one's own
downstairs lair: a hunched woman asked me without breathing, "buy a cigarette from you for a dollar" x4, she held a red tool box her spine curved at the top
downstairs lair: highly recommend this "lion's jaw" search playlist
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downstairs lair: began typing thoughts on last evening's show, and did the thing where you slide the touchpad to backspace, and lost a bunch of thoughts
downstairs lair: broken lineage something left undisturbed failure to image and potential of the grandmother you no longer and brought back to the mechanical non mechanic of the body organized and natural you have a history of wanting to penetrate the long lines of apathy built up in your familial residual break the break and you come back ready to soak, you, are literally moved, gathering for chairletics and the guns from before echoed both times all your dead relatives or maybe those you met on the street that disappeared and how do you emerge victorious or embrace what's to come over and next and after - it doesn't matter anymore he's gone/not doing it anymore, he said it himself and you get the idea of being with all the people in the samesimilar squeaking chairs, you count how many people have cried and know the almost approximate because you can see clearly inward and not outward - sad boi recounts in a line 10/6/18 2nd performance LJ
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cannolio2: currentlly in the upstair lair
cannolio2: headbanging w alex
downstairs lair: how is that going? neck support?
cannolio2: Molly hess just exited studio 2 in a white leotard covered in colorful splotches and bright blue sweatpants. wowow.
cannolio2: I got a wave. win.
cannolio2: oh DEFINITELY no neck support.
cannolio2: this chair back is giving me early onset kyphosis.
cannolio2: that's a hunchback for those of you who aren't taking anatomy for dancers this semester.
cannolio2: how's your neck support figgy fig? I feel like you could maybe lean you head up against the wall behind you...
downstairs lair: lol, definitely googled
downstairs lair: bachelor of fine arts in forgetfulness
cannolio2: Rayne just entered with beautiful blue flair pants and a big black suitcase
downstairs lair: switching between leaning and standing about every 5 minutes
cannolio2: asking what kyphosis is in a year I will definitely not remember
cannolio2: mm smart. like a good office job worker.
downstairs lair: Ben exited roughly 6 minutes ago saying Noli was standing guard at the archive station
cannolio2: oh should I be standing?
cannolio2: Rayne is now microwaving some questionable food
downstairs lair: Trisha said something like you can stand while sitting
cannolio2: update: it's linguini and tofu
cannolio2: oo oo oo
cannolio2: love that jewish lady
downstairs lair: el oh el, his entry involved a large suitcase and an internal negotiation about whether or not to abandon it here. Upon stating someone would be here until 5, he brought it with him as you see
cannolio2: Peter just entered. took off his lime green vest. I have never seen him without it. his striped shirt looks a lot more femme on it's own.
downstairs lair: and deep love
downstairs lair: what have you thought about your experience, how is book coming along?
downstairs lair: experience thus far (shows/classes/people)
cannolio2: mm people wise. realizing that it's all about showing up, having experiences, even short ones, over and over with people, in order to make dance feel like home and family. I remember at first being frustrated and not being able to notice that relationships were building, that I was connecting with people, and then as they started to sort of exponentially gather, I would come to places like Lion's Jaw and feel comfort and home in a way that I didn't expect, or didn't realize had been building all along. and of course it's still early but it's a relief and a joy to notice that happening.
cannolio2: classes...kathleen is totally blowing me out of the water. or maybe very much into the water. I had always been told to take w her and was ready for it for a while...and knew it would be great. I remember when I first started to get interest in post modern/new/experiemtnallalsknalk dance and I asked Sofia who her big main mentors/loves/dance ppl were. and she said Heidi and Kathleen and Kendra portier. and I made this little list on my phone and had no clue who they were. and slowly over time I've gotten to take with each of them which has been so fun and funny.
cannolio2: but yeah I feel like I'm went into Kathleen's class on Friday and was like, OH, I move like this?!!?!
cannolio2: an then I was like OH I MOVE LIKE THIS.
cannolio2: I mean there's always just this freedom in meeting a woman mentor who is fierce and uncompromising and also in that so loving and affirming. and then it feels genuine because I know she is so uncompromised. she so caring and effortful in her improvisation and then at the same time yells, NOBODY CARES. yknow? when she says it doesn't matter and no one cares how you look it's not like dismissive or cynical or hostile it's like she's just grinning and caring so much as she says "it doesn't matteR" and both those things at once for some reason can actually get through to me in a way they hadn't before. and I felt a new spaciousness to *actually* play and *actually* fuck up and *actually* be figuring out my relationship to the floor or whatever.
downstairs lair: that's also so rich and delicious
downstairs lair: agree with "mm people wise" text.
cannolio2: been thinking about being on break from college. the transition between here and home and knowing this is a time for dance and reflection but also my family hasn't seen me for a while and is wanting connection and updates and logistics. that's a really hard transition each day. when I get home and I'm ready to gush/reflect/rage/cry/stretch/touch/babble/repeat my day at the festival and my family only has so much attention for that. so understandable. but it's a hard landing/grounding. and then I'm also trying to rush to bed and get sleep. but then festivals/workshops where I haven't been at home and was staying with dancers the immersion can be so exhausting/sapping/isolating/frustrating and I'm begging for some sort of different texture from non-dancers or non-artists so I don't just sort of spiral in it.
cannolio2: I want there to be less of an edge between the worlds. but I also want to find ways for dance community to refresh itself, to talk about dance and not talk about dance and be together without and with having to make art.
cannolio2: how about you? any thoughts/perspectives as someone living and dancing in Boston regularly? and helping mold the festival from that place?
cannolio2: and yes. super delicious on Kathleen. but also feeding. like not all so rich that you feel too full or heavy or like it wasn't healthy and nourishing.
cannolio2: nice to hear you agree with the people wise text. especially as someone further along in their career who from my vantage point has a lot of home and family built here.
downstairs lair: ooh what's the different texture like?
cannolio2: been also realizing how much we all just want to be seen. not just in dance. I feel like part of the obsession w fame under advanced capitalism is that people feel like that's the ultimate way of being seen. like if you're famous, people are seeing you and hearing about you and thinking about you all over AND in the future, perhaps even once you die. and of course we know that that's bs and being famous is hard and horrible and not seen or cared for in a lot of ways. but there is also a smaller fame to be had in artist worlds/the dance world that's a little less ruinous but still so appealing and seductive. like then I will finally be seen. wondering how we make it clear that we're seeing each other, at all levels, and also that it's good and okay and important to do all the work that doesn't get seen. that that work can be just as validating and fulfilling.
downstairs lair: it's such a fine negotiation, I often wonder how much talking about dance is necessary to organizing around body practices, cause it's more dominant in my life that you either talk about dance when it happens, or talk about everything else and then dance doesn't emerge in conversations as often cause maybe it's a concentrated body of knowledge lull
cannolio2: different texture: lighter, wider, long strings extending, like it helps me look out and around to the horizon. it gets me external. it also makes me feel less dramatic 🙂
downstairs lair: I think of Heidi saying dense or fatty and that's what I thought of as rich, but now I realize it may not be the most accurate descript
cannolio2: *that needs to be a bigger smile 😄
cannolio2: mm totally. I was thinking more like indulgent/dessert/feel good in the moment. like type 1 fun
downstairs lair: I dunno, I think LJ is a distinct and defining point for the Boston experience, and I wish it could be longer or more frequent. It doesn't feel like labor being here
cannolio2: do you feel it's presence/after-image in the Boston community during the rest of the year? or does it sort of feel like a ghost in and out?
downstairs lair: it kind of feels like a ghost, as all the people who partake in dance in this city don't attend
downstairs lair: and there is a general feeling here, as I imaging happens elsewhere, but New Englanders tend to hone in and focus on themselves, and make money and close off often
downstairs lair: I've adapted to this lifestyle as well, and it makes me think how often do I need to soak in all the things, I know it's more than I get to. I just want more local stimuli, and it's both an unreal and real expectation.
downstairs lair: I am appreciative/grateful to be both a person making it and participating in it.
downstairs lair: it's a fascinating split of attention to be registering people and trying to respond in depth. Must follow up in person on this conversation.
downstairs lair: Or, I would like to continue chat irl tee hee
cannolio2: yes yes.
downstairs lair: 5 people have come through for drop-in and the card swiper is missing.
downstairs lair: 3 people have a pay after class situation.
downstairs lair: I am tired, and am so ready to do aerobics in this exhausted state
cannolio2: as someone in college, who grew up dancing in Boston, considering moving back to Boston, worried about lacking stimuli, also considering NYC/philly.... I want to come back because if we don't start coming back it won't grow. and also I was raised as a middle class white new englander obsessed with my own professional advancement and concerned for myself if I can't build the connections I want from here. but I really really want to help build.
cannolio2: yesss aerobics. are you going to go?
cannolio2: haven't checked in w ben. not sure if I'm allowed to go.
cannolio2: Boston is such a freaking uptight city though. especially the young population. can be real straight edge. even in the dance world.
downstairs lair: definitely, will be a little late. And I am happy you feel that way. We need all the people we can get. I think the one thing missing is leadership and there's often a lot of burn out.
cannolio2: simultaneously it is my LOVE and my city and I want to take ownership for it and it's people (esp the uptight white middle class ones) and find a way to stick with it
downstairs lair: re: uptight/straight edge...which is why we need people that are engaged in what they want to make versus what they are told to do, here.
cannolio2: mm. shall we lead together? shall we gather a leadership group to try and make the work sustainable and fun? shall we go to college campuses and threaten young post modern dancers if they don't move to Boston?
downstairs lair: HAHAH I think that sounds like a very good idea
cannolio2: shall we go to Boston developer and threaten them if they don't give adfordable housing to young, POC, dancer artists?
cannolio2: I hope Larry won't be mad at us for being late. how late are you going to be.
cannolio2: lounge is very lively right now in the class changeover. my pinky is starting to ache b/c I busted it up in Kathleen's class yesterday improvising with Delaney.
downstairs lair: I also think there are so many people encouraged to dance at a recreational level here, and a major aspect of what confuses me is that there seems to be limited cross over between art making being a lifestyle and being a hobby.
downstairs lair: I also think there are so many people encouraged to dance at a recreational level here, and a major aspect of what confuses me is that there seems to be limited cross over between art making being a lifestyle and being a hobby.
downstairs lair: I think there are several artist houses becoming available but for like an appendage or two
downstairs lair: I'm changing out with Lizzy right now
cannolio2: sparkly gold helmet, big jared laugh, orange kneepads, wide Molly eyes, hand on jenny's chin, Alex trying to get the heels of his sneakers on without his hands, purple Nalgene, RESIST, moon tattoo, things starting to clear
cannolio2: Jacob yells
cannolio2: gonna pee and then switch out w ben
cannolio2: LET'S GO ASTRO-GLITTER-DANCE AEROBICS
cannolio2: that's at least the descriptors in my head
cannolio2: ciao m'ijo
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Doritoflavoreddoritos: I love " Astro Glitter Dance Aerobics"!!! w
Doritoflavoreddoritos: what do we think about the theme of shimmer and sequence in the performances?
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blahfemme: what? what is this glitter and shimmer were things shiney are there photos? who was shiney? and do you mean sequence or sequins?
blahfemme: oh it's gotten cold here... ohohhohoho
blahfemme: i literally just watched the worst and wierdest movie i have seen in a while. it is called 'mandy' and nick cage is in it... i'm pretty sure he needs to stop acting.
blahfemme: ok ben... you are going to loose me soon as it is 9pm here... and i woke up at 7am... so i can check back in 2 hours and see if there is a prompt
blahfemme: but what if there is no prompt? or can the audience at 'the thing' ask something can there be a colective something question? like these collective tarot reading denise de silva does?
blahfemme: think about it.
blahfemme: later
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Archive Station: ok joy, yeah yeah yeah no prompt.... and double yess to asking at the thing... im on it. hope the long day was ok. talkking to you soon
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cannolio2: I didn't see the performances last night! I was at belated shabbat dinner with my family. so Michael is gonna give me a low down and I'll type tid bits.
cannolio2: Michael: I don't know if I can do that. oh nooo. okay so. what do you want to know.
cannolio2: give me a structure with which to describe it. ME: um, link each piece to a childhood memory or yours.
cannolio2: Kirstie simson: being in the backseat of a car. listening to my grandmother and mother talking to each other. neither of them can see what's ahead. I've never talked to my mother about aging. fluid memory. which I think is uh characteristic of watching movement. my grandmother would drive me to dance competitions and write feedback into the program of the competition and rate them.
cannolio2: Larry did 3 poisons, they consist of, a misquote, memories of family members and creating the poisons/antidote/thing that is antithetical to dancing.
cannolio2: also abby. It began after intermission, completely fluid, someone said "I feel completely uncared for as a audience member" and I was like well, maybe sometimes dance is about being in reality maybe it's not made for you. maybe it's made for you to show up in it. I don't even know off that's an objective. the space was set up in a round and the chairs were set back. some people could choose to sit in the space. abby applied makeup. pranced about the space. showed us a video of her son shooting a rifle on a loop. he was about eight. I'm bad at children's ages.
cannolio2: abby HAPHAZARDLY. DIRECTED. CHAIROGRAPHY, WITH MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE. IT WAS THE BEST TIME I'VE HAD AT ASHOW.
cannolio2: yeah and then it was Jesse and Peter.
cannolio2: beautiful. great.
cannolio2: I heard someone say that the flow of the show went old testament, new testament and something before that. I can't remember,
cannolio2: I think the whole thing in general left me so emotional that I can't recount it yet. Overall that show was the most impressive because everything went into a deep memory. and it's gonna show up later.
cannolio2: maybe it's not "impressive". left an impression.
cannolio2: Thanks Michael!!
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misterfig: Noli wants life alive is anyone going?
cannolio2: I wonder if Michael will be back with my food in time
cannolio2: I wonder if I'm even hungry
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Fwd: Getting Back To Black(NEGRO) a song of AFROFUTURISM
We can make space in moment but do we have to? Dancing to our own joy…. Dancing our Joy, Dancing our joy! Dancing our Joy! Taking up space! Taking up time !! Dancing our joy!!! Dancing our joy!!!
Visceral feeling to crashing and drumming and percussion and loud noise and boredom.
Maximum pleasure… pain.. grief… digestion …contemplation. The feeling and the permeance of the body throughtemporial and fleeting suggestions.
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lionsjaw book prompt 5-final prompt and beyond!
a) what makes you feel cared for in a performance?
a. when i feel like i can leave any time and that me leaving wouldn't be perceived as a big statement.
b) how do you give/receive care in your life/practice/performance/community/research/etc?
b. i give care through touch, sensitivity, and curiosity. i receive care by asking for it, and by listening to my body. by knowing that when i really receive the care of someone else, that this person will feel cared for.
c) please respond to any content posted here
c. i can't figure it out now. it's too overwhelming...
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lionsjaw book prompt 5-final prompt and beyond!
a) what makes you feel cared for in a performance?
-- When the terms of my work/Work are clearly outlined. Like: Am I a creative voice in this project and to.what extent? Is this a real 50/50 or equal parts collaboration or are my suggestions being extracted and discarded in some way ? Am I being paid or not or in a nonfinancial way? Am I being told what to do? Am I desired in a very.particular way, sense of "wjat I am" or is that open to.fluidity? I like direct honest talk; when these things are not direct and I have to figure out the terms or the terms change I feel not cared for.
- friendly attitude among colleagues and common understanding that racism, sexism, transphobia, queerphobia, classism are not okay. Feelimg seen and accepted as what I am.
- When basic needs like water and food and rest time are thought about. Even if not provided, clear instruction/time slotted about when to take care of my own needs much appreciated
b) how do you give/receive care in your life/practice/performance/community/research/etc?
Goals i strive to achieve in my work and personal life but of course always fail to do completely:::
-Active listening. Staying present. Being direct but kind. Setting clear boundaries and guidelines and expectations. Being honest. Redirecting feelings of anger or rage into nonviolent forms of communication. Being aware of the amount of space I'm taking up. Questioning/naming my privilege, space of intersectionality within the group context. Bringing an open attitude and assuming the best. Taking care of basic needs to bring my best self. Assuming other peoples knowledge and authority. Being aware of other peoples' identities and preferences around being seen in this identities.
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Fw: lionsjway book prompt 4 ( and subprompt)
Prompt 4:
Why archive a festival or why archive?
Archive so that we can say 'we exist and u will not erase us!'
Archive so generations after us have access to other(ly) stories.
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Fw: lionsjway book prompt 4 ( and subprompt)
Life is chaos at the moment.
I will answer when I wake up.
I’m dealing a lot at the moment with past. The way our mind storages trauma and hides it behind more superficial memories.
My mum, for example, attempts a lot to avoid and actual trauma/depression by escaping into nice moments in her memory. I’m encouraging her to find refuge in her body; to breath.
Perhaps we storage things cause otherwise we have no proof that we existed.
My body is red and there are dots, they itch. There are other parts that are dry. It seems that something is not ok. Why do I have to feel a stranger in my own skin?
I’m so tired and sad. Sorry, I can’t write anymore.
Tomorrow will be another day.
The unresponsiveness doesn’t mean lack of interest.
I’m here. I’m a body tonight more than ever and that can be painful, but is also a miracle. Shall I just be grateful or scream to God?
I just don’t wanna keep anything, anything. I want to let go of it all.
Love,
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Fw: lionsjway book prompt 4 ( and subprompt)
Hey Joy, sorry for not answering. The reason is that im not doing super well with my mental state, so engageing with emails, especially with a lot of info which is not straight away graspable, hasnt felt very appealing. I have a real hard time concentrating on stuff. I still dont have quite an idea of what you are doing but lets give it a go nontheless.
For the prompt 4 I dont have any answer other than I try sometimes to be in the same room with the people that I appreciate.
For archiving, I dont like having to go through my archives, as I feel I only need it for taxes and unemployment moneys.
Often, in not beeing able to sleep, I write stuff down (or away) on my computer so it doesnt clog up my head. Though only one thing comes to mind which I am happy that I wrote down, which is a poem I wrote in Finnish / bad German.
Hugs,
he ihmiset odottavat autoissan jotka putruttavat, odottavat pientareella, juovat vettä, puhuvat saksaa, kraftwerk soi täällä aikoinaan. Volkswagen
‐sie binnen fertig und klar
‐wir haben keine ahnung vie lang wir müssen etwas hier stehen.
aber wir stehen
keine probele sagen Heinz
das stimmt
keine probleme sagen Felix
Felix und Heinz daumen drücken und l
dauem drücken zusammen
das macht gutes liedlingschap sagen Heinz und Felix
das stimmt
sage Heinz und Felix
Heinz und Felix sind ganz ruhig mit die situation
Sie haben in diese situation waren viele andere tage
bei die Autobahn
bei die Autobahn
Ja, Heinz und Felix sind gute freunden
keine problem sagen Heinz
ja keine problem sagen Felix
Sie können hier bleiben eine langere zeit
Ja, sie finden es ruhig.
keine problem
Die sonne gingen verder
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Fw: lionsjway book prompt 4 ( and subprompt)
By making dinners with people.
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Festival archive as a way to hold the memory of our future clear and open.
Warmly,
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Fw: lionsjway book prompt 4 ( and subprompt)
I archive because I want to maintain ancestral knowledge and observe the patterns of the past so I can make informed decisions for the future.
I do this by recording conversations with my grandmother (and hopefully other elders soon). I do this by writing snail mail and storing snail mail that I receive. I collect photos and am seeking my family tree.
Sorry for the short message! I hope you are well dear.
Best wishes,
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Fw: lionsjway book prompt 4 ( and subprompt)
Hey dear!
Nice to hear from you! Here is my quick answer to the question Why archive?
Collecting, evaluating, transporting, classifying
I wander around always searching for something that I don’t know
On the flee-market, on a bench, in the gras I find it and take it with me
Displacement
Replacement
Reintegration
I integrate, I archive the thing into my room, place it in relation with other things.
Like a spiderweb the things around me form my archive
If one part is lost, I feel like parts of my memory are erased
Or the make place for new
Maybe they continue to form an archive elsewhere
Hugs
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Fw: lionsjway book prompt 4 ( and subprompt)
This is the first I've heard of this.
There are many reasons to archive and the reasons that stick out to me are firstly that something may not seem significant either to the creator or in the context of the time the archive is being created but may actually be significant and worth noting or saving. Secondly, like a computer, an archive can be a repository of ideas that can be held without relying on someone's memory to preserve and relay the idea.
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Fw: lionsjway book prompt 4 ( and subprompt)
Archiving is a way of telling ourselves stories of ourselves. Anything we set aside and then look at becomes a way of reflecting back to us who we are/what worth we have/what life is. First we create or articulate something, then the archiving, or the setting aside/saving, is our way of pointing to it as being important/worthy as a representation of meaning.
Yeah mostly the reason I don’t respond to these is bc they are mass emails. I get your reasoning! And/but I feel like if it takes so little effort to generate ... whatever...then the response is going to suffer. The vibe is off. Make sense?
Love!
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Fw: lionsjway book prompt 4 ( and subprompt)
Hi Joy I only got this 4th prompt/5th prompt so I feel like im just jumping on but I'm having strong insomnia so maybe I'll try writing some responses ...
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>Beyond your role as ____________ how do you seek out chances to
>exchange techniques/strategies/tools/practices with others?
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I feel like traditional forms of post education are limited for myself and people I know because of money. So many amazing workshops and classes cost too much relative to our income. So I mention this to say that I think this influences how we find opportunities to learn. It also helps me to soak up opportunities for learning which are offered for free either in my community or at events that I happen to be working at... Part of my job is to stay alert to free leaening ops. I feel like it's my responsibility (to myself) to take advantage of the workshops offered by colleagues for example , when I performed at a diy film festival --they didn't have much to pay but I took incredible workshops from others. Likewise at your event at ponderosa--incredible opportunities to learn
Parallel to that I tend to collaborate with a variety of performers, av artists, musicians with whom we all skill share, ie we set up a weekly performance practice led by a different person so w can take classes from each other
Being what I call technological cusp generation, i had some resistance or rather ignorance about learning from youtube, but my younger partner has turned me on to that. Sometimes I do reach out to the interwebs for some explanatory videos.
I read -- my favorite kind of reading is still in real books but I feel like I have to fight with myself to make that happen
>why archive a festival???... or WHY ARCHIVE
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I always felt like the emergence of the selfie, especially from groups of people who feel objectified by others, was an effort to "see oneself" -- liike to create a lens through which one can study one s own self and to try to find or built a narrative about ones own life. This to me of a kind archiving and archiving does the same thing--allows us to see what we have done and build a third eye or farther afield narrative
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Fw: lionsjway book prompt 4 ( and subprompt)
Havent had a fucking minute to sit down and type things. Will answer as best i can
From an academic perspective
For my research into : how arubans talk abt colonialism in relation to specific landscapes
I.e how are discoursen of colonialism embedded in landscape and negotiated in everyday life
I was interested in doing archival research. This in order to gain a broader understanding of which narratives were there. To sketch a social biography of place
To my albeit naive surprise, there was barely any documentation on these places i was seeking to investigate, itself undoubtedly a consequence of colonialism and western imperialism
From a personal perspective
This de- legitimized historical narratives which did not support the colonial hearsayers, in turn legitimized a place from which to speak ( i.e anger)
A personal anecdote:
When my father passed, i took his ipad with me to holland. Browsing through pictures and documents ( my invasive nosyness preceded) i found a list pertaining to a surinamese registry of enslaved afro surinamese people, born into and out of enslavement, my family name originatating herefrom ( we are descendants from) our last name the name of those who owned plantations, subsequently naming us.
When i found this i was both horrified and relieved. Horrified at the proximity and confirmed reality of these atrocities done to the folks with whom i shared a name. A legitimization of the oral histories passed down from my father and generations before him.
Talking with isk abt what i had found, brought a myriad of different reactions. One of which was her lament at the impossibility of locating her own amcestry, and to that wxtent herself.
There is a power dynamic at play in the different ways in which we archive, tangible archives carry more weight amd value then do oral histories. Something i lamented on in my own research as well.
These forms of archives are more formal.
Facebook instagram and other social media forms are also ways of archiving yourself, creating an exhibition of ( what seems to be ) your own choosing. Looking back on these ould involve a delineation of growth over the years or an expression of self love( selfies).
I just woke up and here ends my capacity for writing , film screening starts in a bit. Should i think of anything else i will continue writing
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Fw: lionsjway book prompt 4 ( and subprompt)
Hey Joy,
i am sorry i was not able to jump in with timely pertinent shit.
why archive :
1) mine are chaotic, and incomplete, and therefore mostly incomprehensible. I wish it were not so. "blame it on my ADD, baby"
2) dance disappears, performance disappears, live action diappears. Ephemeral is the popular adjective. A painting por film does not need documenting or archiving oin the same way because it is those things. OK this totes kindergarten basic basic. I think I have nothing else to add but the obvious. That and funding is harder to get when you can't show your passed shit.
prompt 4: how do you seek out chances to exchange techniques/strategies/tools/practices
with others?
I am part of a collective here and we take turn teaching improv depending on availability. But we almost never see each other! I have
a new friend a fellow anglophone musician who I exchange notes with. Other than that on tour bumping into fellow artist types. I would love to be student. I need new info.
Music, recording, queer, basic arts history, gardening. I have almost never been a student formally, but learned from collabs and folks I'm working for.
dats all 4 the mo.
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Fw: lionsjway book prompt 4 ( and subprompt)
Ok archiving..... i archive bc I'm a nerd, because i'm curious, because i want to remember, because i want to be remembered, because i want to know everything, or nothing, or contradictions, because knowledge is revolutionary. Because I love experiencing change, witnessing change, becuase it's nice to see how differently we can experience the same thing.
I also like experimenting different types of archives, how are tattoos archives, or movements, or clothing patterns, or rituals, or anything and everything. I love the way that knowledge moves around the world, moves within our families, our communities, our lives. And I think that archives can really preserve and save us. And lie to us. That contradiction is always really nice to me.
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Fw: lionsjway book prompt 4 ( and subprompt)
it has been to overwhenlming for me to engae with an internet site.
I just do not get into it or find a place for it in my way of thinking about archiving or geting thoughts out!
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Fwd:
Hi Ben! And Joy!
I had to submit a ridiculous grant report (aren't they all ridiculous?), and part of that was saving receipts.
Ben, since you had a hand in the magic/chaos, I'll send along here the reciepts I used in the report.
Maybe they would make a good back drop for a quote or something in the book!
If too late, or not right, that is TOTALLY fine!
Hope all is well :)
Hanna
hannasatt.wordpress.com
vermontdance.org
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Fw: 2018 Lion's Jaw Book Project
What are you currently researching, and how do you imagine that research informing a collective experience?
I am currently studying trauma stored in the body, particularly its relationship to race relations in the US and the legacy of the transatlantic slave trade. Looking at whiteness through the lens of trauma, it can be seen as a form of dissociation: a disconnection between cause and effect, stemming from denial or avoidance of painful historical realities. I am looking at how that disconnection manifests in the body: perhaps as gaps in presence, or lack of sensation or awareness in various parts of the body, e.g. pelvis or feet.
I’m only at the beginning of my studies in Somatic Experiencing, a body-based therapeutic approach to overcoming trauma, shock and other stress disorders. My interest is to translate this knowledge into choreographic approaches and allow it to inform creative process, as well as to use it as a tool for supporting individual artists and groups within artist exchanges.
These studies are research for a collaboration with mayfield brooks, that includes duet performance ‘How to Be Afraid?’ and co-led workshops called ‘Rupture meets FAILURE Lab’.
Where is the edge between research and practice in your work?
As a practitioner and performance maker, I use ‘research’ loosely to mean everything that happens within my creative process: collecting knowledge and inspiration from books, news, films and culture, as well as exploring topics and methods in the studio alone and in collaboration with other artists. Although I do regularly teach and perform within academic settings as an independent artist, I am not currently situated within academia. I enjoy reading cultural theory, however I am not up to speed on research methodologies for writing academic papers.
I often question whether, when, and why I would want to return to academia. ‘Research’ will mean something different if I decide to take my performance work into PhD studies. How would this change the work that I make, and how I think about it? Who would the work be for? As tempting as it is to find a more stable situation for creating performance work, at the same time I find it daunting how my priorities would inevitably change. I wonder whether it’s more important to defend my free-thinking from the institutions, or to contribute to institutional thinking in meaningful areas where I want to see change.
How do you currently relate to your own economy of resources—abundance, scarcity, sharing etc.
I have been working with failure for a while. There is a conflict of interest between the atmosphere and ethos created in many artist-led environments, and the reality of ‘the industry’ or art market. Namely, there is a clash between cooperative and competitive intentions. Is it possible to reconcile these different ways of being together within capitalism? I think art is usually about sharing. Expression and communication are sharing. Workshops and residencies (and festivals) usually aim for exchange and mutual benefit. Yet- resources and visibility are awarded, some artists are held up as most excellent, most relevant, most cutting edge etc- How do we maintain practices of generosity and sharing, within relentlessly competitive and unsustainable systems? I don’t know the answer. I do think that cooperative environments are generative. By sharing our skills, spending time being together, and experiencing one another’s art works, we foster care for one another. Care actually does nourish competitive systems. Every time we go to see work because we care to support the others, we nourish a competitive system with our care, and invest in strengthening links between us. But I don’t think this reconciles the clash. As long as there is ‘excellence’ there is competition- and this is not necessarily a bad thing either. However, the general inequity and unsustainability of working in the arts does not reflect the abundance and variety of ‘excellence’ at work. Who gets visibility and why?
How do you define a festival?
Beyond your current role how do you seek out chances to exchange techniques/strategies/tools/practices with others?
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Fwd: last rental payment check for Lions Jaw dropped off 10/3
Hi Leah,
I just wanted to leave an email reaffirming that Jared and I dropped off the remaining rental check for Lions Jaw on Wednesday evening in the lock box.
Thank you for renting you space to us and our festival.
Warmly,
Sarah Mae & Jared
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DOS: sweet! thanks for the info... i think for the prompt that i will throw out into the ether will come from what is written above or at least inferred. from abby's performance where someone said or may have said' i feel completely uncared for as an audience memember' so i wonder what makes us feel cared for or how to we give and recieve care in a community/life/practice/performance? @ben
DOS: you can totally finesse it or take it or leave it! i will cc you on the final prompt and see what shakes out.
DOS: speaking of shaking. i now do my morning shaking practice for 8 mins... up from 5. next week is 10 try it.
DOS: self care is communal care.
DOS: good morning to you all! happy last day of festival and i hope the closing with jared is swell.
DOS: smooches
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misterfig: sitting in lounge with BVB, RR, & now SMG. Sarah will have a post LJ child in like 6 days. It’s been a really good festival. The shake can be seen downstairs in the garage door prior to entry.
misterfig: thinking about the remainder and shifts hat have been caused by an overarching or throughline of focus on internal spaces - seems to go across the board. I attended AC, JZ, HH, LA, KH,
misterfig: that*
misterfig: clarifying or envisioning the internal to benefit alter external
misterfig: the thing was long and consisted of that good type of reveal of all the people you’ve been around for 5 days, like after all the stimulation and hyper attention and activity you get to rest into all the people that you’ve been surrounded by
misterfig: last thought, the anxiety from last year’s festival seems to be cut. I think this time around, since things outside of here are not ideal, people have dropped in. - assumption
misterfig: but felt. it seems that relationships forming that I observed came from a deep place of quiet understanding.
misterfig: i think im done
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heyo: ok ok thank you and good night...
heyo: ben?
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